/ New Quarks
Nevisport in Manchester had a hammer version in last week but no matching adze!
Previous post is right - they are designed as a modular tool. If you want an adze, you have to buy one.
There is a minor hiatus in supply at the moment I think. Some shops have them (in small numbers) but the majority of the axes are still not here yet. Some sort of manufacturing hold up.
Thanks folks, much as I thought.
how about the ergos?
anybody know anybody who can justify forking out $350 EACH??!?
Where did you hear that?
What I meant was that they had just one tool in (not two like most of us use!) and that was a hammer.
A friend is still waiting for a pair of the new Nomics (already paid for) and she's been told that the first ones Lyon imported all went as pre-orders last month. The retailer is now very embarassed as they are waiting for new stock and this ties in with what's already been said re. Lyon. It sounds as if the problem originates with Petzl - either a supply-demand issue or possibly giving Lyon a lower priority over importers in other countries. I've noticed that plenty of North American and mainland European retailers seem to have them advertised - but obviously this doesn't necessarily mean that they've physically got any to sell though.
Perhaps someone from Lyon could come on here and clarify matters as this issue isn't going to go away?
> Nevisport in Manchester had a hammer version in last week but no matching adze!
It's the other way around at Urbanrock - looks like there's some sort of conspiracy to stop people buying a complete set...
> anybody know anybody who can justify forking out $350 EACH??!?
Fondled a pair in brighams, mad things they are. It also allowed me to have a feel on the new handle which is lovely, especially if you have hands my size, they simply won't fit comfortably in a pair of BD fusions with gloves on. I wonder how many will buy a pair?
It's just the others. I bought mine equipped with
adze and hammer from the factory. And refitting is difficult as they're a close fit. Tried just for fun. And it was not fun at all...
i should qualify...that i WILL get a pair one day.
but be able to justify it.....noooooooo
Apparently full production will be achieved by Petzl-Charlet in December and all back orders will then be fulfilled. Until then only small numbers of the new axes are being made available to importers, although presumably none at all at the moment.
So, anyone got any good ideas as to how to delay winter until the French get their act together?
Thanks Dave, I'm hoping for something before December, we'll see. A strange situation when I'm now half wishing we don't get early winter conditions! My Flys are blunt and my attempt at sharpening them last year didn't do much good, they might be okay for a start of season warm-up but that's about it.
Have since ordered online again, man on phone assures me he was holding a pair of the new Quarks in his hand at the time, once bitten twice shy. Axes reduced by £40! How does supply and demand work again?
I hope to be doing the same by Friday. Thanks for the link, never heard of them before, will add to my collection.
They are on sale in Nevisport in Glasgow.
You can pop in, hold them in your hand, swing them and then buy them - axe and hammer.
Nevisport and Tiso in Edinburgh have had them for a while, I got mine from Tiso around 3 weeks ago. The quarks come with a hammer and adze from the factory.
I have, on the table next to me, a pair of Quark ice axes from those very people. I'm good to go!
I hope you'll pardon me sticking my beak in, but the new fusions are pretty much the same as the nomics, old or new (with the advantage over the old ones of having a wee hammer already). If you don't like nomics chances are that you won't like the fusions.
Not really, its the little details between them that I can't decide on. Eg hammer and umbilical attachment points.
Also the shape of the handle and how your hand fits.
I only got some new ergo type handles for mixed as sold my old ones and came into a little bit of cash so want to get the right ones for me for that type of climbing. to be fair, it doesnt matter at all but its nice to climb with something that dane calls your excaibur!
Yup - Fusions and Nomics are both leashless. As are the Ergos. And new Quarks, come to that.
where do you attach your leashes too then, I've been pondering this for the last few weeks
They have the same hole in the shaft to attach clipper leashes like the old model. New Quarks are sold without leashes.
They have the normal pre-drilled attachment point for leashes (pull the plastic plugs and insert the bolt through the saft). But can't personally see any point in using leashes, as that will effectively take away a lot the Nomic has to offer. I find myself getting less pumped without leashes, so I haven't really found any benefit from them anymore (it was an easy conversion to me).
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