what is the warts and all view of shipley glen? I'v heard from some sources that its a bit of a car crime blackspot, and a bit on the 'grimy urban' side. I'v also read that the landings tend to be on the pointy side and its all a bit fingery and highball. Other people seem to really like the place. So a)how likely would I be to come back and find my side windows smashed in, and b)how good is it as a venue for low grade (v0 - v2) bouldering punters?
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