/ Gadget Show massive boo-boo.

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Rigid Raider - on 03 May 2012
Have a look at this video and see what major fail you can spot... apart from the riders' style, position, gear choice and the helmet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JaUMGFITTc

Noticed anything funny about Polly's front brake?

Now fast forward to 3:58 and enjoy the squeals as Polly reaches the end of the exciting ride.

Lord of Starkness - on 03 May 2012
In reply to Rigid Raider:

The Onix Azzuro is so last years model (though I'd still have one as I've seen it in the flesh).

Unfortunately the show was filmed before the sexy 2012 Onix RH signature Black or Pro models were launched. Now that's proper bike porn!
gethin_allen on 03 May 2012
In reply to Rigid Raider:
nice, what fool put that front wheel on?
Frank4short - on 03 May 2012
In reply to gethin_allen:
> (In reply to Rigid Raider)
> nice, what fool put that front wheel on?

Well actually the wheel's on right it's just the fork is back to front in the opening shots.
gethin_allen on 03 May 2012
In reply to Frank4short:
> (In reply to gethin_allen)
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> Well actually the wheel's on right it's just the fork is back to front in the opening shots.

if you look at the side profile view (1:01) it shows that the disc caliper is on the right fork leg (probably trying to be quirky) rather than the usual left leg as seen on normal bikes. Also, the sweep of the forks looks correct and if the fork was backwards I don't think you'd get much clearance with the downtube.
Kaizen - on 03 May 2012
In reply to Rigid Raider: Thanks for sharing that link, that video made me laugh so much :)

Ironic how so called gadget experts cant even set a bike up correctly.
gethin_allen on 03 May 2012
In reply to gethin_allen:
in fact, at 4:33 you can see that it would be impossible to put the forks on backwards due to the crown design.
EeeByGum - on 03 May 2012
In reply to Kaizen:

> Ironic how so called gadget experts cant even set a bike up correctly.

Just listen to yourself. They aren't cycling experts. They are TV presenters who like gadgets. Would you know how to set up a high end HiFi? Or a bespoke computer? Or any other specialist gadget that wasn't a bike?

I am no expert on cycling despite commuting 20 miles a day and I would have said that the video shows two people enjoying riding round the Formula 1 track in Monaco on expensive bikes and having great fun in doing so. Does it matter that their bikes weren't set up to expert standards? Does it make the video any less interesting? You will be telling me that Bear Grylls makes factual documentaries next! :-)
The New NickB - on 03 May 2012
In reply to EeeByGum:

The thing with these programmes is that they are great until they get onto a subject you know something about, then you realise the whole thing has been a rubbish.
gethin_allen on 03 May 2012
In reply to EeeByGum:
Personally I'm not bothered about the "set-up" of the bike with regards to saddle position and the such but you'd think she would have noticed that absolutely nothing happened when she pulled the one brake lever and she could have stacked it badly on the corners. Your could see in the vid that she lost the back wheel a couple of times.
Jim Hamilton - on 03 May 2012
In reply to The New NickB:
> (In reply to EeeByGum)
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> The thing with these programmes is that they are great until they get onto a subject you know something about, then you realise the whole thing has been a rubbish.

you mean I don't really need all that carbon, 200m into a bike ride ?!
loopyone on 03 May 2012 - host81-157-60-93.range81-157.btcentralplus.com
In reply to EeeByGum: Theres a bit of a difference between not 'being an expert' and putting a wheel in back to front. To then complain the brakes were too sharp makes a mockery of the whole test.
Toby_W on 03 May 2012
In reply to Rigid Raider:

I bet it was done on purpose to stop her going over the bars and hurting herself.

Pretty smart I think.

Cheers

Toby
woolsack - on 03 May 2012
In reply to Rigid Raider: Sorry, too busy looking at Polly, what were we talking about?
LastBoyScout on 04 May 2012
In reply to EeeByGum:
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> Just listen to yourself. They aren't cycling experts. They are TV presenters who like gadgets. Would you know how to set up a high end HiFi? Or a bespoke computer? Or any other specialist gadget that wasn't a bike?

Look at 5:03 and it clearly shows the disk is not in the caliper - even non-bike gurus like them would be able to work out the front brake wasn't working and why.

Bit like trying to turn a TV on when you haven't plugged it in, surely?

If they couldn't work it out, I'm sure Monaco would have a bike shop that could.

Anyway, I was more concerned about Polly's bike being far too big for her and both of them breaking rule #35
MHutch - on 04 May 2012
In reply to Toby_W:
> (In reply to Rigid Raider)
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> I bet it was done on purpose to stop her going over the bars and hurting herself.
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+1 for this

I wouldn't be surprised if she'd had a couple of moments on the bike already. A 'panic brake' down the hill into the hairpin would have been spicy, with 160mm rotors on an otherwise featherweight road bike.

Would two high-end bike manufacturers simply ship them to Monaco in a box with the pedals off for the producers to set up?



tim000 - on 04 May 2012
In reply to Rigid Raider: it`s amazing how many bikes i see with the front forks on the wrong way round. im a bikeability cycling instructor and we have to check the bikes first . must get 1 or 2 a week . nearly allways halfords bikes . someone told me their training video is wrong and shows the forks on backwards :-(
EeeByGum - on 04 May 2012
In reply to tatty112:
> (In reply to EeeByGum) Theres a bit of a difference between not 'being an expert' and putting a wheel in back to front. To then complain the brakes were too sharp makes a mockery of the whole test.

No it doesn't. This isn't a bicycle comparison programme. It is a magazine programme about gadgets. People don't watch them comparing two 20k bikes and then go out an buy the recommendation at the end of it. This feature was about two ordinary people riding two of the most sophisticated and expensive bikes you can buy around the Formula One circuit in Monaco. That is it. How cool is that? It is not about discussing the merits of putting a bike wheel on the back to front.... whatever that means. Why can't geeks understand things that are just supposed to be a bit of fun?
Ramblin dave - on 04 May 2012
In reply to EeeByGum: I thought it was pretty silly, tbh. It felt a bit like showing off latest and best leashless ice tools by getting me and my girlfriend to bumble up a grade I gully with them while reciting random bits of the press release...
Lord of Starkness - on 04 May 2012
In reply to EeeByGum:
> (In reply to tatty112)
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> two of the most sophisticated and expensive bikes you can buy

The Oniz Azzuro is nowhere near the top end of the market in terms of price - even though it does apparently boast the finest grade of carbon used to build the frame -- the model featured cost about 2.5K. Even in it's most expensive groupset (Campag Super Record 11 and Bora Ultra tubular wheelset) it works out at around 4.7k -- so a lot less than similarly specced 'big name' bikes and about the same as a similarly specced Ribble Scuro!
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EeeByGum - on 04 May 2012
In reply to Ramblin dave and Lord of Starkness: I don't think you get it. It is an entertaining programme for the masses. Not a technical comparison for specialists. You will be telling me that Bear Grylls doesn't make very good factual documentaries about survival in the wild next. ;-)
Enty - on 04 May 2012
In reply to Rigid Raider:

Massive boo-boo to that bloody helmet - it's got a peak on too.

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Ramblin dave - on 04 May 2012
In reply to EeeByGum:
I'm not actually that much of a bike nerd and I certainly wasn't hoping for some useful information for my next high-spec road bike purchase. It's just that if I want to see someone zooming around with a nice piece of gear, I want to feel like I'm seeing someone getting the most out of it rather than someone breathlessly reciting bits of the marketing spiel that they don't really understand.

It's not often that I say a good word about Jeremy Clarkson, but at least when he gets in a lather about break horsepower or smooth cornering or whatever then you get the feeling that he knows what he's talking about.
Lord of Starkness - on 04 May 2012
In reply to EeeByGum:

I was just taking the opportunity of getting some shameless plugs in for my mate's bike company! --- Shhh -- the mods might not notice.
John Rushby - on 04 May 2012
In reply to Rigid Raider:

I suppose it is like Top Gear testing the new Maserati, and filling it with diesel.

If you want your opinion on a product to be taken seriously then you have to demonstrate you at least know what you are talking about.

I mean, it is not like some poor sod's business depends on what some meeja numptie has to say....
Kaizen - on 05 May 2012
In reply to EeeByGum: Calm down son, you may blow a valve:P

Yes, they are clearly not bike experts, just TV presenters reading a script. But when a Tv show is meant to be showcasing the latest tech, they should atleast do it correctly. To be fair, if i was a company having my product on show, i would make sure my own team set it up to make sure its of your own standards.

And about the other things, Ive never tried setting up a high end HiFi, i'll just stick to my bose system thanks, then again connecting a few cables is very hard like.... and the last 3 PC's ive owned, ive built myself, isnt exactly hard to do, not to mention cheaper/better and future proof.

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