/ Welsh mountain list

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myth - on 04 May 2012
Where can I find an absolutely up to date list of welsh mountains and their heights? I have googled but a few list have come up with differing opinions. Wikipedia seems wildly inaccurate.

Thanks.
andyd1970 - on 04 May 2012
highclimber - on 04 May 2012
In reply to andyd1970: I was under the impression that C. Llewellyn was the 2nd highest mountain in wales, ergo this list is incorrect?
andyd1970 - on 04 May 2012
In reply to highclimber: To be honest so did I, till I read that list! So not sure now
andyd1970 - on 04 May 2012
sbc_10 - on 04 May 2012
In reply to myth:

Don't know how accurate it is, but the book
" The Mountains of England and Wales: Volume 1: WALES" Cicerone Press,
ISBN 1 85284 036 6 by John and Anne Nuttall
....has the heights and routes up them as well.
Bulls Crack - on 04 May 2012
In reply to highclimber:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garnedd_Ugain

So if Wikipedia says so...?
rockcatch - on 05 May 2012
In reply to highclimber:
> (In reply to andyd1970) I was under the impression that C. Llewellyn was the 2nd highest mountain in wales, ergo this list is incorrect?

I think Carnedd Llewellyn is the third highest. Garnedd Ugain (Crib y Ddysgl) which is between Crib Goch and Snowdon on the horseshoe is 1065m, whilst Carnedd Llewellyn is 1064m - until someone decides to re-measure them anyway ;-)
Mike Peacock on 08 May 2012
In reply to myth:

Organised by area here:
http://bubl.ac.uk/org/tacit/tables/wales/

I'd avoid the Nuttalls book as mentioned above; their criteria for a hill is 15m prominence. All sorts of insignificant bumps are therefore included.
pog100 - on 08 May 2012
In reply to Mike Peacock:

But that is half the fun!...
Mike Peacock on 08 May 2012
In reply to pog100: Hmm, some of the Nuttalls are worth visiting, and some really aren't (Moelwyn Mawr North Ridge Top anyone?). I'll stick with the Hewitts I think...
malky_c - on 08 May 2012
In reply to myth: Here's the Hewitts in a handy map form:
http://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/Forum/hewitts.php?mode=hmap

That's the list I've been working with recently. I did most of the hills in North Wales when I was a kid, but now I'm back to finish off the Welsh ones I haven't done - only 14 left now.

I agree with Mike - don't bother with the Nuttall list, although there are a few of the extra ones worth doing (Y Garn on the Nantlle Ridge is another that springs to mind).

Crib y Ddysgl is the second highest summit in Wales, but some people only consider it to be a minor subsidiary top of Snowdon (dafties) and don't count it.

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