Can anyone clear this up for me? DF starts in the middle, goes up a bit, then traverse right to good jugs. QF gets to that position by going up the grotty corner. Correct? Are both routes the same thereafter? It seems the most natural line/best climbing follows the bolts up through the steep bit, undercuts, three-finger pocket, then jug on the arete and awkward side pulls to get another jug by the lower off. However this seems a fair bit harder than any (of the few) 7a+s I've done, and harder than Haslam too, being fairly sustained with no real rests.
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