/ Best car for climbing trips?
Which cars do you lot drive and how does the boot cope with bouldering mats?
I'm eyeing up trading my car in for an estate, would be nice to find a car that will get two mats and a few rucksacks in the boot without having to fold down any seats.
Skoda Fabia hatchback can get 3 people + gear for a weekend in comfortably. It would probably struggle if I added mats though.
maybe look at a diesel estate ,peugeot audi, ford etc depends on your finances i guess.
It may as well be said sooner rather than later - Skoda Octavia. Roomy, comfortable, economical, reliable. Bloody good cars!
I got a Skoda Octavia last November. Loving the car. Went up to N Wales with 4 of us recently, comfortably put 4 rucksacks, tent, 2 racks, 5 ropes etc all in the boot. Makes a change for people not to be sitting on gear. Highly recommended.
Oh, and nominally, it was acquired as a family car which it serves well
I don't know why we're all skoda owners, but they are certainly good. My Fabia hatchback fits in two pads in the boot. Or alternatively, 4 people with kit and tents is fine. Have't tried 5 with kit - it would be a push. My mate has the old fabia estate and it can clearly handle a lot more. Much better for sleeping in too.
Any large diesel estate I should think.
I'd like a 5 series but i can dream on. My Laguna 2.2dci is pretty good for accommodation, fuel efficiency and the most comfortable of my climbing group's cars it's also quite quick.
Yeti = 415 litres
Octavia = 585 litres
Oct Estate = 605 litres
Yeti = 1580 litres (1760 litres with seat removal)
Octavia = 1350 litres
Oct Estate = 1665 litres
I use an X-type estate so any medium size estate should be able to carry the following under the cover (without it being visible in the boot):
3 x 60m ropes
100l kit bag
50 l rucsack
tent & cooker etc
sleeping bag + mat
boots & shoes
I have a citroen C5 2.0 hdi estate, chosen mainly for it's huge boot and comfort on motorway miles. Enough boot for a five man boulder trip to bleau, very comfortable to drive long distances (passengers seem to be happy too), pretty decent fuel economy for a big car, and quite cheap to pick up second hand. The only downside is it's a little lacking in power (110bhp) for it's size, so although it's suprisingly spritely at low speeds, it's pretty sluggish accelerating on the motorway. Very comfortable cruising at license losing speeds once it gets there though.
I've had Peugeot Diesel estates 405, 406 and 307 and had 200k miles out of all of them.
Bit of a tank but it's a great cruiser.
Best car for climbing trips?
Tom Patey's I reckon <with Tom in it of course!>
If not then a 1.8 mondeo TD
Given that climbing trips often take in some the best driving roads to be found, how about a Subaru Impreza WRX Sportwagon?! Tough, practical, reliable, 4WD + winter tyres useful in snow/ice, and quite handy for the odd overtaking manoeuvre - "When it's safe and conditions allow, Officer"!
Not as much space as Octavia, though...
+1 for a berlingo.
Good on fuel, cheap to repair, you can sleep in the back stretched out (if you're 6"1' or less), swallows tonnes of gear. I sold mine and bought an LPG volvo estate and have regretted it ever since!
You can get five people in it, all there gear for a weeks climbing and camping, and you can slide a bouldering mat in nicely on top. It's slept 2 people, lying down flat, in the back and one was 6ft
Good economy, cheap to service and really comfy with bags of torque for hilly areas
Really happy with mine
I swear by estates, wouldn't bother with anything else these days
Just got one of these:-
Five seats and loads of space
Back seats go forward to allow van like space
55MPG on a run
Cheap as chips to buy
Side loading doors are a god send
Shopping friendly etc
NOT the fastest mind
Skoda Fabia estate, 1.9tdi, quick, boot about as big as Focus estate, 55-65mpg, cheap road tax and reliable.
The split boot access is handy too, pop the glass and chuck everything in.
Not a glam car but better than freelanders to drive, cheaper parts. The micky mouse 4wd is more fuel economical too.
Copes well with the snow and with the back seats out there is stacks of room for gear. I also have winter tyres fitted as you never know with this summer weather...
Skoda Superb - nearly 1900 litre with seats down if I recall correctly. All the plus points of an Octavia except bigger. However its not cheap, and its pretty rare. I've got the 4x4 version and its the best car I've ever driven, and I've driven some nice cars.
The best car for any climbing trip is, of course, somebody else's. Some other bugger can drive; I want to read, sleep, and look at the view :-)
Volvo V40 Estate, reliable, comfy (think heated seats with fully adjustable lumbar support etc), all the toys, reasonably efficient (45+ mpg ave for a high milage diesel) and can be picked up for less than the equivelent Ford etc.
I have a transit van... Lol plenty of room,...
Car wise I'd say an estate like a BMW 5 series, mondeo, etc
Did a grand tour of Scotland including Orkney and Skye from Manchester years ago, three of us in a Passat VR6 4motion Estate. Brilliant car for such a trip, until it was your turn to fill the tank.
Offer the best combination of cheapish purchase price, good on fuel and massive space. Nick Bullock lives in one
I've documented all the suggestions...might even make a spreadsheet (this is serious business).
The Berlingo had slipped my mind, I remember an old girlfriend's parents owned one and we went to south France in it, it was indeed roomy. I wonder if I could cope with the emotional turmoil though.
+1 for the Blingo van
Torquey diesel engine could do with 6th gear when unladen tho'.
Mine has roof bars for sea kayaks and I can easily get 2x MTBs in the back, so a pretty versatile vehicle.
Mind tho', you get done for LGV road tax at £200 for the van version - Multispace 'car' version is cheaper road tax.
> The Berlingo had slipped my mind, I remember an old girlfriend's parents owned one and we went to south France in it, it was indeed roomy. I wonder if I could cope with the emotional turmoil though.
Get a partner then ! bum bum
My parents have a Citreon Zsara Picasso which has been great when I've borrowed it for climbing trips. Loads and loads of space plus great mileage I think.
Another Octavia estate vote here (albeit the scout version for 4x4 and a little off road).
Perfect climbing car.
More realistically, Nissan Note always strikes me as a practical package but I've never been inside one.
I once mounted my Clio with a large roof box - it looked funny - you could see the it from the drivers seat and the trunk door opened half way only. But it was ok for 2 adults and 2 kids including climbing gear tent etc. No room for blouldering mats, though.
Otherwise you could always buy a used Hummer, they're cheap these days.
Company cars are the best for climbing trips.
They go faster.
They are not adversely affected by minor bashes outside.
They don't mind a bit of wear and tear inside.
Another vote for the Octavia :-) Get the Scout if you can.
Tom Patey's I reckon <with Tom in it of course!>
Certainly better than one with Al Harris or Wolfgang Gullich at the wheel...
Very nice - but when you need to bivi in the back or mix some blats up alpine passes with some climbing, well... See my post above!
I've got a kangoo (car version) for sale at £1300 if your after one.
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