/ Marin Trail Gwydyr Forest Park How hard is it
I am MTB newbie, done the blue and red at Gisburn on the same day, and done the Blue at LlanDegla and other stuff and fancied some MTB ing in Wales. How hard is the Marin and are the difficulties avoidable, going with the Wife so really really don`t want to bite off more than we can chew as she will shout at me :-(, fitness is not a problem as we can push, it`s more how comitting and technical it is. Any help appreciated.
if you're happy with the red run at gisburn you'll be fine on the Marin... one or 2 steep bits like the home-baked section, loads of fire road and a couple of longer descents. i did the marin well before i did gisburn and would rate gisburn as being technically harder. certainly there's nothing you couldn't easily walk down if you need to.
Marin is kind of nice. I have limited skill and didn't find it too committing or technical. It can be a long old drag at times but if you're happy enough with some uphill plods and take a picnic to make a day of it I suspect you'll enjoy it. First time I did it, it probably took 4 hours but now I flit around in two and a half. The fire roads are a bit of an acquired taste. Actually not the most interesting of rides though.
Thanks for that, any feedback on Penmachno
Just because somewhere has fewer objective dangers doesn't make it safe and simple.
Your post is disingenuous and could potentially lead someone to an accident.
IMHO Penmachno Loop 1 has quite a high level of objective dangers. It is a very narrow trail in places and at this time of year will be lush with vegetation. Apart from the vry slippery nature of he trail in certain places anyway,there are many hidden trailside hazards,rocks,stumps etc,that can catch your pedals and have you over the handle bars. I think that his nrrow twisting trail with these obstacles calls for constant concentration and decent riding skills. It's certainly a step or two up from the Marin.
Even if it's easy for a hardened expert like yourself. Please try and put yourself in the place of theperson posting. Don't underplay the risks and lure them toward a potential accident.
The Penmachno is a wonderful trail,but give it the respect it deserves.
> The Penmachno is a wonderful trail,but give it the respect it deserves.
especially when you consider the nearest emergency department is in bangor!
We did it in sleet. By the end couldn't change gear or brake in fairness. Wasn't anything that was technically that hard maybe one little section towards the end that had a few rocky drops
You could equally read that Lancs Telegraph story as 'Gisburn fast becoming more popular'. Don't read me wrong like, bikes can be dangerous. I've not liked the time I've spent in A&E with friends. Cordially,
If you did the blue at Llandegla, you should definitely go back and do the red trail. I took my wife a few years back (a total novice and more used to horses), and she had a great time - it's nice and smooth and flowing. Hope this helps - enjoy!
Thanks, I will.
PS did you get my mail?
> Just because somewhere has fewer objective dangers doesn't make it safe and simple.
Yes it does. The plain fact emerges that there are too many folk who ride beyond their comfort zone, trying to be heroes. I blame the telly. And DVD's.
When your talent is outweighed by your ambition it's always going to get messy.
I could take a shopper's bike round Gisburn and not have an issue anywhere. Laden with the shopping.
The trail itself is NOT dangerous.....the riders(?)are.
Slippery, narrow, steep, boulders, tree stumps are part of the fun and are the technical element of a ride. Ridden properly they give satisfaction. Ridden by idiots then accidents happen.
> Your post is disingenuous and could potentially lead someone to an accident.
People cause their own accidents, anything I (or anyone else FTM) says on a forum is a subjective matter, yes, even your comments. So do shut up until you can talk sense. If anybody follows ANY advice on here verbatim then they want their heads looking into. There are no rules, just guidelines. And common sense.
Not at all. Just the ones who can't do it correctly, get it wrong and call upon the emergency services to sort them out.
Try Nant Yr Arian - its a gem of a trail, excellent trail centre type riding, combined with the more natural extra loop, makes for a varied and technical (but all escapable) ride.
Edit - Gisburn red is a much more difficult trail than the Marin.
I am SO glad that I seem to view the world on a different channel to you.
Totally agree with you.
Not done Nant y Arian but its on the list - its the one inland from Aberrystwth?
Thats the one, Id say that Nant Yr is my fav welsh trail centre, allthough despite mountain biking every week for 20 years, I have yet to try Afan, which alot of my mates say is the best in wales.
> I am SO glad that I seem to view the world on a different channel to you.
Me too. Glad you're able to clean up after me as well.
> Not done Nant y Arian but its on the list - its the one inland from Aberrystwth?
That is the one. When you go make sure you do the big natural loop round the outback, it really good and a contrast to the more trail centre stuff you start and finish on.
Went to the Lakes instead, glorious weather. Walked up cautley spout in the morning, Then cycled from Stavely up past Grassgarth up to Kentmere Church, tea and cakes for 2 at Maggs Howe, £4 Bargain, then over to Longsladdale then half way down the valley cut back over the fell, very satisfying, Dog`s sleeping it off.
Cheers for all the Welsh suggestions, I will be taking them up.
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