/ Calling all North Devon and Cornwall Climbers.
1) There's a meeting to start the ball rolling at The Bush Inn, Morwenstowe http://www.bushinn-morwenstow.co.uk/ 10th November, 7pm - all are welcome. If you want to get involved but can't make the meeting, either contact us via this thread or email me.
2) UKC logbooks - please give feedback on any route you have done: Are grades and stars correct? What state are any in-situ pegs in? Are any belay or abseil stakes in good condition? Any new (or old) routes missing from the database etc?
With the above in mind, I'm working through the logbooks for the area adding as much info as I can to the database.
Just to add to Mark's post: we're particularly keen to receive feedback on some of the less popular crags, such as Carn Gowla, Pentire, Tintagel, and the more recently developed crags on The Culm.
Also, camping on the N Coast in November could be unpleasant, so if coming to the meeting involves an overnight, let me know and I can fix up something more comfortable for you.
As a random thought, and I don't know whether it's within your powers to adjust things now, that weekend doesn't look so great for the tides (the CC website suggests appledore tides at about 3pm high which is going to be pretty limiting). That could put off any non/less local culm aficionados who might want to lend a hand.
As one of those non-local aficionados (a day at Sharpnose not long back reminded me how many good days out I've had on that bit of coast), I was hoping to make it down one of the other, better-tide weekends in November for some climbing, but probably can't justify driving down on a bad-tide weekend just for the meeting.
Anyway, just a thought...
I've now entered all the routes I know of into the database for the Culm Coast (Sloo Slabs - Widemouth Bay). I've not put in route descriptions for any of the routes in the guides (too much like hard work), but, with Dave Henderson's permission, I've copied across new route details from his javu website. (There are also a number of phototopos on his site). http://www.javu.co.uk/Climbing/NewRoutes/NorthDevonandCornwall/NorthDevonCornwall.shtml
Excellent. Thanks very much, we'll be in touch.
May be able to make the meet. Love to help out anyway. Have sent you mail.
This should keep you busy! Would be up for "helping out" by climbing a few routes with you when I'm back, but suspect the weather won't allow it at Christmas....
Unfortunately I don't get down there anything like as much as I once did but if we move before it's out I'll be in touch!
Weren't you once a Bournbrook / Northfield / Redditch /Warwick wall regular? I'm sure we've met.
> Weren't you once a Bournbrook / Northfield / Redditch /Warwick wall regular? I'm sure we've met.
Back in the 70s, just the Redditch wall. - I was the guy who managed to set fire to a tent on a Ceunant club meet to Borrowdale.
We might be lucky with the weather, you never know. I'll be preparing a list for a Culm "dagger attack" - there are still loads of routes in the area which have not, as far as I know, been repeated since the 2000 guide, and probably some not since the 1988 guide.
Hows married life? Love to Lisa.
> Back in the 70s, just the Redditch wall. -
That'll be it. Together with Ian Parsons, Jon de Montjoye, Brian Hannon et al.
Sounds good, and yep all well ta, lots of people still talking about Solly's performance (and apparently it was all filmed, will try and bring a copy back!)
Am I right in thinking that the previous NDC guide included the Exmoor Coast? Even the Somerset bits? Is it your intention to include it in the new guide?
> I was the guy who managed to set fire to a tent on a Ceunant club meet to Borrowdale.
I didn't know that Mark. I remember Roger Lavil telling me about it. Now I don't know how much Roger embellished the story... but having dragged you from the smouldering remnants of the tent in front of a crowd of onlookers he turned and said to you:
"Go on... tell them what you do."
"I'm a safety officer."
"Go on... "
"For the Gas Board!"
Please, please don't tell me it's not true. Please.
That's not been decided yet. Baggy and The Exmoor Coast and Hurlstone Point will be covered by a new guide, but possibly in separate volumes, given the large number of new routes put up all along the N Coast in the 12 years since the last guide.
With that track record Jon (if true), I'm glad we're producing this guide electronically and not on paper!
Hmmm, you must admit Roger's version has a certain je ne sais quoi, that yours sadly lacks.
Well I did assume it was your stove...?
I have been climbing on this coast for about 25 years and have done a few new routes. I was speaking to Dave Hope previous guide writter about this just last month. Anyway very keen to help. I'll try to be there.
Classic Mark. Worth waiting 35(?) years for!
Any one from West Cornwall traveling up for this meeting?
Will not be able to attend but obviously happy to help. Have a lot of information. You know how to contact me and welcome to use my library.
Likewise, I doubt I'll make the meeting, but can help out with Penhale Camp if you want? Unless anyone else is desperate to do it... well you never know!
Just drop me an email if that's any use.
Wow! What a great plan! Mark - would be lovely to come on 8th but prob wont be able to make it. I'll trawl thro my guide and comment on any routes as much as poss. I'd be keen to put in the DWS at Perranporth plus a few more gems!! I can work on Gowla if you want with James (oakapple).
Look forward to meeting you at the Bush on Saturday. (The beer is good!)
Will anyone going to the meeting be climbing in the area on Sunday?
Is there anywhere non-tidal?
Should be okay for somewhere to sleep, thanks.
We all retird to the tents to carry on drinking and John said 'there is one thing all if you can do better than anyone else in the world, if you find out yours and can make it commercial you are lauging' He vowed to show us his 'one thing in the world' after a couple more pints.
Sure enough, come midnight we assemled to see Johns great feat.
He got his dick out, built up a head of steam and pissed completely over a car can't remember whose( without touching it). An amazing feat and the only thing I can remember about your last organised SW meet :-)
I'm not sure whether I should be allowed to organize any meet! A couple of years back one of my "bright idea" little gatherings, this time in Greece, ended up with a German yachtsman almost being thrown into a harbour and some serious negotiations with the Greek police!
Last night was, of course, arranged by Mark, and therefore ran like clockwork with all of the great and good of D&C climbing on their best behaviour. We're even going to be allowed back to the same pub in March, when hopefully many of the 300 or so daggered routes in the region will have lost that symbol.
Thanks to Mark and all the others. I reckon the next guide to ND&C is going to be an absolute belter. Pre-order now!!!!
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