/ Best climbs in Indian Creek??
Also, Chocolate Corner would be a worthwhile intoduction for a first time visitor
You can't go far wrong doing all the starred routes in the guidebook - classics without exception!
Don't forget to do some towers too - Castleton area is best introduction.
Fine Jade (E3ish) and Jah Man (E2ish) on the neighbouring towers are truly brilliant days out.
Doesn't the guide only have no stars (mostly very good) or one star (brilliant)?
Although if by 'this year' you mean 2012, Utah in general may be a bit cold at the moment. There was snow in the San Rafael Swell area recently
> Doesn't the guide only have no stars (mostly very good) or one star (brilliant)?
Hmmm, rather reminiscent of the YDS grading system...
> Hmmm, rather reminiscent of the YDS grading system...
Not really; the starred routes are generally better than the unstarred ones.
Well, in that it only gives you part of the information that you need, but could give you more, it is.
> Well, in that it only gives you part of the information that you need, but could give you more, it is.
I see what you mean. I thought you measnt that it didn't tell you which routes were better just like the YDS doesn't tell you which routes are harder.
Actually I think the one star system and the YDS both work at Indian Creek (with alowance for hand size).
So my attempts at trying to get you frothing at the mouth are failing?
How could on froth at the mouth while day-dreaming about Indian Creek?
Well I obviously have failed. I didn't actually like Indian Creek.
WHAT!! Are you stil trying to wind me up?
No. I really didn't like it. I found it monotonous - bit like cascade ice. Despite supplementing my double set of cams with those of a friend, I was woefully short. I watched people virtually top roping every move with their set of 15 #3s whilst I ran it out on my meagre rack. It occurred to me that it would be far better if it was sportingly bolted and cams were banned. Seriously!
Quite honestly I thought the two towers that we did were far better - Castleton (classic) and Moses (Primrose). I'd like to have done more towers but in fact we were only down there waiting for bad weather to clear from the Tetons.
> It occurred to me that it would be far better if it was sportingly bolted and cams were banned. Seriously!
Now you are definitely trying to wind me up!
Yes. The towers are one of the best climbing experiences out there. That's what I really want to go back for.
Yes, I've seen it. I think the only thing it shows is how incredibly hard the route is and how cool Haydn Kennedy looks when he climbs it. I like to watch people climbing really well. I can fumble cams perfectly well myself!
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