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Legends only is an "after...
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For me the link to watch it on SVTPlay says this -
Videon är inte tillgänglig.
Det kan finnas flera olika skäl till att du inte kan se videon.
På vår testsida kan du prova om du kan se vår testvideo:
SVT Play testsida
and leads to a cartoon.
What happened with Adam Ondra?
He's so weak - only good for long ladder-style sport routes.
online footage still isnt sorted
It was good to see people travelling to Stockholm for the weekend mainly to see the competition (and I'm not talking about myself!), competition climbers do deserve more attention.
Rules must be set in a way to prove who's the best and strongest. not the luckiest
if they don't want to count the total moves made, at least they must consider the Tops+Bonus
What do you mean by bouldering is only for toping out?if a guy comes and did 3 more bonuses than all others, and topped similar as another guy, but with more attempts, the other guy wins? he's weaker... he did less moves...
and back to the Legends.. who knows how many attempts Sean had the day before on the first boulder? ... that's why i am saying the ranking system is just not accurate, just like the Swedish commentators, we got nothing from it.
also, Dmitry was the only one who flashed 3 boulders
Sean flashed 2 ..come on, it's not that hard to see the faultiness of the system
They should count the Bonuses anyway
The rules of attempts has a logic which is inconsistent with trying the boulders the day before and having bonuses (which end up counting less than the number of attempts anyway).
In sum, Dima was the best one in the comp for me, but that's just my opinion.
1 - The pre-working session might allow for a different scoring system, but calling the current one something that makes "the luckiest guy" win is a complete exageration.
2 - Dima (whom I'm a big fan of) was well aware of the rules and of the importance of each attempt. Especially since he must have surely topped the first boulder in practice, he only has himself to blame for the many attempts on Saturday. And his reaction showed.
3 - If the Swedish television puts the money to broadcast the event, they can comment it in whichever bloody language they want. If your country is so amazing and so into climbing, next time they could send their own live broadcast team to follow and comment on the event? Also, the broadcast of the event was fairly priced at ZERO, so don't look the gift horse in the mouth...
Norwegians, Danish and quite a few Finns.
True that. Swedish is the most understood language in Northern Europe. The Finns study it as school, Danes and Norwegian don't even have to to be able to grasp about 95% of it...
The law was changed a few years back so they don't have to anymore. Most Finns do have some passive knowledge of Swedish thinking of my Finnish climbing mates I suspect the majority would prefer commentary in English for such an event just because they are more likely to know climbing terms in English than Swedish. My Finnish wife got quite annoyed with me asking her to translate descriptions in the Bohuslän guide for me this summer for that reason! :)
But, hey, this thing was filmed for Swedish TV so it's not surprising it was in Swedish.
Northern Europe is, by common use, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland and Finland.
Any business/organisation/whatever that refers to Northern Europe or "the Nordics" means those countries. The UK and Ireland are not part of it, same goes for the Baltic republics. It's not just a matter of anything north of Calais...
Not that it really matters but as a Northern European (British) political scientist who has live for a long time in Norden, although technically not Scandinavia (Finland) I would strongly disagree with that. I don't think there is a particularly common meaning for "Northern Europe", if you hear talk of "the Northern European economies" that normally includes Germany, Benelux, UK/Ire, and the Nordics. Some historically minded political scientists might say "Northern Europe" is non-Catholic Europe (France and Germany are both seen as being border states in that sense between North and South.
Are you thinking of "Norden"? If so it's not a term most English speakers know, using instead "the Nordic Countries".
> Are you thinking of "Norden"? If so it's not a term most English speakers know, using instead "the Nordic Countries".
English speakers surely use "Scandinavia"? (I don't mind, I totally accept that "Scandinavia" and "Skandinavien" are congates but with different meaning.)
Often, but the geographical pedants like to explain that excludes Iceland and possibly Denmark and Finland too!
> English speakers surely use "Scandinavia"?
As an innocent unbiased "English speaker" with no agenda here, I can say that we use both. Scandinavia is more common, "Nordic countries" tends to be used by people who want or need to show(*) that they know that "Scandinavia" can be interpreted in different ways and that "Nordic countries" is more encompassing.
* I don't mean that in an insulting way, though I can see that it could look that way.
The competition was nice, and I like the way the format is different (I.E. "after work").
Keep in mind it is not a true competition however, as it is invite only, and only among "la sportiva" sponsored athletes, mostly for show (And a good one it was).
I'm not even too sure that Jakob or Adam would have chosen to participate in a bouldering event on themselves (after all, they didn't do so at the world championship).
The discussion here is a sad reminder of the sense of entitlement native English speakers seem to get about language. Is it really shocking that televisions in other countries are shooting their broadcasts in their native language ? Really ?
Well, I don't speak swedish, I'm not a native English speaker, and I'm glad I could see the whole event in HD VOD for free.
The guy who raised the whole point about the language I think is Lebanese, i.e. not a native English speaker. Plus I think he didn't realise that it was filmed for Swedish TV and webcast just as an 'extra' for every one else to enjoy. I think he thought it was just a webcast for climbers to watch.
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