/ Down jacket suitable for -30C and lower?
I'll be ski camping in the Arctic Circle so I don't want anything too heavy.
My Rab Neutrino works well at those temps but I'm not sure I'd want to be standing around too long.
The PHD Omega might be worth looking at too. The only thing Rab make that might work is the Expedition jacket AFAIK
I haven't been ski camping but have used a pulk plenty of times and I used a TNF Himalayan Parka down to minus 38 ish? and I was toasty bordering on the too hot on some occasions.
Not exactly lightweight but it was strapped to the pulk when I wasn't using it. I think is was about 1.5 kilos and a godsend when it was baltic.
It does pack down surprisingly small, depends if you want the extra weight.
Failing that, a PHD Xero jacket is probably the way forward.
Hope this helps, Den
I would have thought any of the big down jackets from PHD, RAB, ME or the North American companies would do all right for this sort of use. Box wall will be better than sewn through, but even a well stuffed sewn through jacket can be impressively warm. http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=1564
Sorry. I guess I must bow down to your superior experience at these temperatures.
Rab Neutrino won't be warm enough, that was a down right dangerous suggestion -
Really? Loads of people wearing them for belaying last time I was climbing in winter in Canada and it was effing baltic.
All depends on your layering system. Not a dangerous suggestion at all, rather sensible and one from experience no doubt due to the location of the poster.
How cold is it in your neck of the woods now? -17.6 here - I know this precisely because I'm about to go and sleep in the back garden to test a recently arrived sleeping bag for UKC! Hoping ME have got their figures correct! :)
My mate in Canmore was out camping on Friday and it was minus 16.
A different kind of camping mind, a wigwam with a wood stove!
It was about -16 here last week but up to about -10 at the moment. Lots of snow so far this year.
Quality, box-wall, stylish as well:
I've got a Rab Neutrino and which is fine, but the waterproof zip is rubbish (Rab, why? It's a down jacket) and the velco wrist tabs have pulled off. I've be looking at a Vega to replace it but it I was after something warner, the K7 looks the ticket (and feels it when I've shop-fondled one)
Rab expedition, very warm maybe a bit bulky but its a sacrifice i would be happy to make
Try some layers underneath?
I far prefer RAB for cold (old Extreme Summit and an Expedition Jacket) since in my opinion they seem to be made a lot better than PHD even if PHD reckon they have better down.
But the fit of the jacket and what you wear underneath is pretty important.
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