/ Approach skis-maintenance advice
Any advice is much appreciated.
Do you find the skins stick better with to hard or soft wax?
I think i'll stick to keeping my skis waxed and scraped as normal for better skiing, there's nothing worse than a bad case of hairy base.
I was thinking similar questions about skin maintenance; advice I found on the web suggests waxing the skins with the same wax you want on the base, perhaps just not as regularly, or is parafin skin wax better?
I'm new to ski-mountaineering so unfamiliar with methods etc,but was always taught to protect telemark skis with glider/base wax,before applying underfoot-grip wax.Wax on,or wax off ?
Also,i am right assuming skins are removed before descending,are'nt I?
I read otherwise on some blog.
Thanks for all replies
I don't buy the argument about wax on the base at all. Even if you don't scrape your bases clean. 1 pisted run or anything that isn't powder will have all visible remanents of wax removed from the bases.
Most mainstream skis have only a nominal amount of wax on the bases when brand new. So unless you're buying your skis from some small custom builder who takes uber pride in their work and makes sure every ski is perfectly waxed before they leave the shop then this particular argument doesn't hold a massive amount of water.
This is what I would say it's, in my opinion, either down to the state of the glue on the skins or possibly the way they're being stored which is really just a variation on the state of the glue on the skins.
I'm afraid I don't know the technicalities, but...
a regularily waxed (as in every day) and properly scrapped and brushed race ski is loads faster than a non cared for ski so the bases are much slidier (note technical terms!) It took alot of waxing to get my new race skis faster.
When I have waxed my touring skis I have done a thin layer and left it on, mostly as its needed to fill all the divots and help my ptex repairs! Skins stick fine but I don't wax them very often.
> I'm afraid I don't know the technicalities, but...
> a regularily waxed (as in every day) and properly scrapped and brushed race ski is loads faster than a non cared for ski so the bases are much slidier (note technical terms!) It took alot of waxing to get my new race skis faster.
I think you're somewhat missing my point, which is that even if you can't be arsed scraping the excess wax off of the bases of your skis post waxing, within a very short period of time the excess wax on the bases will be worn off through skiing anyway.
In saying that yes it is common knowledge that well prepared skis go faster and anyone with any interest in going fast will take the extra 10-15mins when preparing their skis to properly scrape and brush them. Though not doing this, whilst it may make your skis a tiny bit slower, shouldn't lead to excess quantities of wax on the base which would impare the abilities of normal skins to stick to the bases. Provided you're not putting your skins straight on from the carpark with the excess wax still there after just servicing them, and even then I doubt it would make that much of a difference.
Which sounds pretty normal, and all but proves what I was saying. Even if it appears I wasn't saying it quite so clearly that it was instantly obvious.
I have two pairs of touring skis. One I use mainly for downhill and get waxed with normal (paraffin based?) wax. I have never had a problem with the skins as I always done at least a day's downhill first. The second pair I use mainly for touring. I wax these myself with a PTFE nano wax, e.g. "OSixO 24". Some tours involve long flat or only slightly downhill sections and having no wax at all could be "literally" a bit of a drag.
P.S. was out skinning yesterday, masses of snow here in the French Alps
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