/ REVIEW: Wide boyz
Read more at http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=5154
I'm getting a copy for Xmas, can't wait :0)
PS it may be good to get someone to proof read the write up. I know English is the writers second language but it has quite a few errors that make it hard to read in places.
Yea there are some errors, but if English is your first language how could it be difficult to read?
Every now and then people make petty comments about the quality of Björn Pohl posts, they are hardly horrific and are not puzzling to read! Yawn.
I'm getting a "doesn't exist in the database" error.
> Yea there are some errors, but if English is your first language how could it be difficult to read?
> Every now and then people make petty comments about the quality of Björn Pohl posts, they are hardly horrific and are not puzzling to read! Yawn.
I wasn't being petty, no they are not horrific, but one section in particular was puzzling to read to me. I am not going to get into a detailed discussion about it as i wouldn't like someone to do that to me on a public forum.
I live in Spain so am very aware of learning/using a second language.
I think Bjorn's posts are normally very good for EASL. This one however had a few errors that stood out more than normal.
How long would it take to send a copy to any of the UKC staff who have English as a first language and get them to proof read it ?
It's not a complaint or something that will make me stop reading the articles.
And lastly how will Bjorn improve his English if no one points out any errors ?
I agree and it's not petty. We all overlook some of Bjorn's more minor "flaws" in English grammar but this review is distractingly off kilter. Again no offence to Bjorn himself.
I'm also an immigrant. In 100 years time, if my French is as good as your English Bjorn I'll be a very happy man. Great review - I had no problems with it.
lovely. perhaps we should get somebody to proof read your posts, too, hmm? :P
What's off kilter about the review ? I saw the film and this review is a reasonable feflection on what I saw.
I meant the quality of Bjorn's English was "off kilter" compared to previous article's he's written. However this is a silly distraction.
I saw WideBoyz in the cinema on Sunday and enjoyed it but I didn't see it as something that one would want to buy and keep (for the record I don't tend to watch many of these sorts of films repeatedly anyway, other than perhaps The Sharp End which I've seen 3 or 4 times).
I also saw Tom Randall give a talk about the offwidth training and trip, last year, which was excellent.
I agree with another poster here that perhaps a bit more about the climbs other than Century Crack might have been nice. I also think, having seen Tom's talk, that just a little more detail on the training "dungeon" could have been good - I know there was plenty, I'm only talking in terms of maybe 10% more on that.
I found it curious that Pamela Pack was not even mentioned, let alone featured, in the film, as Tom was full of praise and admiration for her during his talk (I think he said she was helpful with tips and recommendations too). Maybe that was her choice though.
I didn't think Stevie Haston came out of it well at all, he seemed petulant and bitter. A friend of mine suggested that he may have been playing the "Stevie Haston character" but if so, that's a fool's game. I remember his original blog post at the time, the "I see Century Crack still hasn't had its ascent" one, which I thought a bit childish - could have worded it better. Then even when they do lead it "properly", his "praise" is very very back handed, at least the way it comes across in the film (he seems to be criticising their long runouts, with a subtle implication that HE could have done it if he was "fool" enough to put such long runouts in). So I wondered why he was featured in the film at such length, really.
> I meant the quality of Bjorn's English was "off kilter" compared to previous article's he's written. However this is a silly distraction.
In what way? I could spot maybe one word out of place the: (well).
The description of Pete's photo as 'Pete Whittaker in Century crack' may scan poorly because of reader's expectations but is just as easily a play on words ie he is literally in it rather the convention of describing him as on it?
Sorry, when I said "silly distraction" I meant that we shouldn't be picking apart the English, and should be looking at the opinion expressed in the review and the film and discussing those
My none climbing friends were gripped to the very end ! Normally talking through the film or nodding off is common !!
e,g Psyche 1+2 , The long hope ,moonflower , echo wall e,c,t
The discount code at the bottom of the article doesn't work for me.
> lovely. perhaps we should get somebody to proof read your posts, too, hmm? :P
But not you obviously as you don't even use capital letters. ;P
In reply to 'others':
Not what i wanted at all, which is why i had a think about whether i was going to post that opinion. I eventually decided that i will never improve my Spanish if people don't point out my mistakes and i guess the same applies to Bjorn.
It was well intentioned and wasn't in any way a dig at Bjorn, so i fail to see why it gets people so wound up.
Anyway, as others have said lets leave it there i suppose.
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