/ Hardtail

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Lurking Dave - on 13 Dec 2012
The collection* is missing a hard tail.

Intention is to build a fun, trail bike. 120mm forks + SRAM XX1...

Ti... Van Nicholas Mamtor could work?
Fe... Cotic Soul is the current front runner?

Any thoughts, abuse etc. appreciated :-)

Cheers
LD

*collection for reference is 07 Specialized Epic, 08 FS Stumpy, 2011 S-works Stumpy HT, 2012 Pivot Mach 4 + roadies. Collection is shared with better half.
Chris the Tall - on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave:
The collection appears to be lacking a 29er
Jamming Dodger on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave: I have it on good authority that the Niner Air 9(29") HT is rather nice.
Budget?
Horse on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave:

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> Fe... Cotic Soul is the current front runner?
>
Surely you have answered your own question.

Have you read the sizing notes, I prefer a slightly smaller frame than normal on these bikes (Cotic BFe's which has same geometry as Soul). They are better for chucking around but the penalty might be on long days XC style riding and uphill but price worth paying for gravity is your friend.


the power - on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave: dialled prince albert
ChrisJD on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave:

fun... + ..120mm

Computer says no.

More travel required
Horse on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to ChrisJD:

He could put a 140mm in the Soul, or get a BFe use a 160mm and head for the rocks.
ChrisJD on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Horse:

I wouldn't mind a Cove Stiffee with 160mm forks

Or a Ragley frame with 150mm?
Lurking Dave - on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to all: thanks for the thoughts so far.

29's I just don't get on with the long wheelbase/sluggish feel.

Budget - not unlimited, but ... (just don't tell the wife)

Travel - there is a brand new set of 120mm Fox Terralogic forks waiting for a home + this length suits the (realativly) tame trail hereabouts.

The VN Mamtor looks crazy cheap ... $1000 delivered but as Horse said I might have already answered my own Q.

The Cove and the Prince Albert just don't seem to have the pedigree of the Cotic?

Cheers
LD



Horse on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave:

And the Cotic is bar far the prettiest of the lot.
ChrisJD on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave:

> The Cove... just don't seem to have the pedigree of the Cotic?


Cove, sans Pedigree ! You are kidding?

the power - on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave: The Cove and the Prince Albert just don't seem to have the pedigree of the Cotic?

Check out dialled bikes race team for pedigree
jj0076 - on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave:
I've got to throw in a vote for a Santa Cruz Chameleon.
Frank4short - on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to ChrisJD:
> (In reply to Horse)
>
> I wouldn't mind a Cove Stiffee with 160mm forks
>
> Or a Ragley frame with 150mm?

I'd sooner buy a SC Chameleon than a Stiffee if that's the direction the OP wants to go. Failing that on the suggestion for a steel frame I doubt you'd go far wrong with the Cotic suggestions.
ChrisJD on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Frank4short:

> I'd sooner buy a SC Chameleon than a Stiffee

mmm, one of those might go well with my old SC Bullit
Chris the Tall - on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave:
> (In reply to all) thanks for the thoughts so far.
>
> 29's I just don't get on with the long wheelbase/sluggish feel.
>
I presume you've actually ridden one ?

Seems to be lots of people who have made up their minds that 29ers are wrong simply because they are differant. My hardtail is anything but sluggish !!!
balmybaldwin - on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Chris the Tall:

True, they are definitely quicker speed wise, but they are also definitely slower to accelerate and turn (less flickable in the corners) although some of the more recent ones have better tuned Geometry which to an extent counteracts this. They are also heavier.
martinph78 on 13 Dec 2012
In reply to Lurking Dave: I have a Ti hardtail (Airborne, who are now Van Nicholas) and love it. Perfect compromise between comfort and stiffness and weight in my opinion.

Plus it's Ti :)

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