/ The thaw
It's quite common.
Gorms is holding up pretty well so far although that might change if we get rain or the thaw continues for more than 4 or 5 days.
Its very common for a heavy thaw sometime around mid december isn't it and I can think of a few years that it's thawed heavily after some climbing around xmas new year time. Does seem to be going on a bit though this one. I cant imagine all the gullies and snow fields high on the ben are going to go back to zero though, there was a good build up right? And lets face it mixed routes often come in to condition very quickly with a cold snap.
I don't know, if only there was a website that told me what the prospects are?
Surprised at that; were there folk climbing?
I was on the plateau above glen feshie today and it was a lot more solid than I was expecting with great walking conditions and the exposed turf was indeed frozen. Softened up in the afternoon.
A very cold wind which may have helped?
> I was on the plateau above glen feshie today and it was a lot more solid than I was expecting
I too was pretty surprised by how solid the snow was on Cairngorm even quite low down in Coire na Ciste. Made for quite unpleasant skiing.
I've seen worse at this time of year - I'm sticking with the "judge in April" polemic!
I've only been climbing for a few years but have seen several major thaws like this before. Good conditions always return!
P.S. I'd like good conditions in about 2 weeks if anyone can arrange them...
The forecast is for 55 mph but as im sure you will have done ive gone out before on those forecasts and got much calmer conditions (and other times proper hardcore wind that blows you over when it gusts).
To the OP if you want to go i'd start by getting up and checking the wind and temp on the weather station and have a backup plan of a lower level walk.
Nice to getthanks again
In reply to Wainers44: I would avoid the Red Gully area in thawing conditions, it's quite loose. Would imagine that the Runnel is good, Fiacaill Couloir will be ok at a guess...
check the link i posted. MET says aviemore 8 deg and in the last few hours tops rising currently to 6 deg, doesnt look like any major temp inversion (hut temp at 760 m) roughly 6 deg. Likely all the neve is turning to mush / spring snow. It maybe better walking than being in a gully if the situation is the same tomorrow morning. If the sais weather prediction is right of 12 degrees on tops you may be wise to avoid being under cornices for long periods, gullies can be especially vulnerable to this.
It's the dilema us foreigners often have...very rare trip this far north, less than ideal conditions and only one day left. Of course though one poor climb is not worth taking an unreasonable risk for. I think we will take an early walk up for a look and check the weatherstation too.
There are worse places to have breakfast even if a climb isn't on :)
Advice all much appreciated!
well jet stream wind speed and warm are a little different.
unisys saying colder from weds.
Does look to be getting colder from next week and looks set to stay cold - well as much as weather outlooks are accurate - still least it is saying cold...
Still lots more snow on Cairngorm than at this point last year.
I was up again today. All the easy gullies seeing action in Sneachta. Team in Red Gully but it looked a bit black and drippy
Did you write a poem?
"F@*k off Rain"
At the base of the route we found a big gap opening up as the slope sagged away from the base of M o P. Our judgement based on no knowledge of the route was that this could be a clue as to the condition of the cornice, so we decided to leave it and traverse left and then climb out....to find the wind as gusty as expected....I am sure the route was fine though and we saw at least 3 other teams climb it ok. Ah well, next time!
We walked back up there with the dog in the afternoon and although the melt was ongoing the snow cover still looked pretty good.
Well done to all who did get a route done today.
Well seeing as you asked, I had a wee wander up the Fiacaill Ridge this afternoon, lovely day, great views, not bad snow cover for May... aye it would appear that a lot of snow has decided to go on a jaunt to the seaside.
The easy gullies are still fairly well banked out and I passed a bloke topping out of one of the Trident gullies, but didn't stop to ask how it was. I saw someone else heading up the steepish ground by the Goat Track while I was on the ridge and I could see their legs which would suggest that they weren't sinking in up to their crotch. Mind you, I was glad to be on the warm dry granite of the ridge!
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