/ oldest piece of clothing or gear you still use.
Not a very good offing I'm afraid but the oldest thing I use is the 5mm cord I use for my chalkbag, ot quite attactched to it now though, its 10+ years old. I do still have some old stuff I don't use but can't bear to get rid of though inc a scube, a tuber and a sprung stich plate and my Karrimor hot ice 30L sack. Boss sack that is, been on so many adventures together :-)
I have a Karimor Pinnacle rucksack that I had for my 16th birthday,I`m 61 now.It is still going strong though it`s only used as a rope bag now.
Still have a Pinnacle sac which is even older but no longer usable & kept for sentimental reasons
And yes I am a Yorkshireman who as per his origins, is too mean to spend more than is absolutely neccessary!
Plenty of Chouinard karabiners from the early 70īs for racking cams/nuts. An original MOAC from the mid 60īs but that doesnīt get out so often.
Another ME Annapurna duvet - 1980
A big Ultimate down sleeping bag - also 1980. It got a professional wash this year!
Old Rocks on rope - 7,8 and 9 (wide ones as opposed to the new fangled slimmer versions). The 8 and 9 are permanent fixtures on my rack, the 7 having been usurped by a Chouinard 10. c.1980, with the Chouinard being c 1981. I'd be lost without them.
Some RPs - all circa 1981
A Choiunard No 3 and 4 stopper - 1979 - still placed, but have never been fallen on!
Thinking a little more, but not quite so old, still have the following n the cellar
Chouinard rigid crampons
Pair of 'terrors'
Simond 'Chacal' & Barracuda
Berghaus Cyclops Roc, Karrimor Alpiniste 7 Rucksacks, HH pile jacket and a Trangia 25 from the early 80's.
Oh, and still have some lycra kicking about somewhere :0)
There'll be a wire or two on te rack that may be old but I don't hang on to things.
Clothing - Blue Buffalo 22 years young!
In daily use? A Petxl extender that's been my keyring since about 1990. Various lengths of ancient 9mm rope relegated to roof rack tie downs.
All my gear is around 20 years old..not sure how much I'd trust it nowadays.
...and for the proper old school out there a karrimor technical hot :D I think it's indestructible!
Karrimor Western Isles Fleece Pants.
They're about 20 yrs old and now 'MC Hammer' style but thy're the dogs for keeping warm around the house.
This thread is about old gear, they are completely contemporary.
Yet another one of the herd of Annapurna duvet jackets and another original, rigid-stemmed number 2 friend AND one of the old stich-plates still very much in use (but only for climbing walls). I actually sold a pair of chacal/baracuda to somebody here, along with a pair of original Rambo crampons, so they presumably still have them even if they haven't owned them from scratch.
I've have and still use a bloody great big Chouinard size 4 Camalot . Its heavy but still works well . Also have a Karrimor Alps Lite 45 + 5 Rucksack that is around ten years old and still going strong it was dropped from over 60ft once fully laden and it just shrugged .
A fair of bit of old ( 15 yrs + ) Salomon Ski / Boarding gear .
And some kit from operation Granby (91) which is still used for camping and hiking .
I have a Special 6 shirt that I still use for caving, it must be 20yrs old now. It started off purple, but is now a blotchy pink.
Rule of thumb: clothing gets torn and worn so no point paying good money on them.
Nothing to do with climbing but I still have a leather biker's jacket which is about 22 years old now. And SO back in fashion. :-)
Surely old must mean >25 years ?
An orang karrimor bivvy bag from 74. I also have a karrimor ob 2 from 75. Bought off a schoolfriend for a Ģ5
Os survey tourist map from around 58 that still shows the railways, used to be my dads.
I have lots of old gear I keep for sentimental value, but not much still in use.
Wall rucksack is still my ancient Berghaus Rock Star.
Sprung sticht plate and matching HMS possibly the oldest bits I actually use.
An old Polartec 200 fleece comes out occasionally
But got my first proper rucksack - Lowe Alpine Walkabout 35 comig on ten years ago and still using it. 21 y o now so it's a decent proportion of my lifespan.
I've still got a Robert Saunders Dalomite tent that gets the occasional outing.
I purchased it 35 years ago for my 18th birthday.
still use my first wild country harness, it's probably 13 years old....
have a podsac teardrop from before i started climbing probably 16 years and it's bomb proof
also still use my first bike jacket which is erm 35 years old
though thinking about it i still use the climbing shoes i bought off boris the brother in law for 20 quid (only used twice) back in 1999
another erm financialy careful yorkshireman
I have a few bits still in use from the 80s - a Karrimor Jaguar S65 sack I got in 87, some tracksters I have had since 84-5 ish, a North Cape fibrepile jacket from about the same time (indestructible!) a pair of Scarpa Mantas that have had three resolings and probably date back to 87-8 and a set of hexes that were part of my very first rack back in 82-3 ish when I was a wee scout.
somewhere in the garage, covered in cobwebs are two McInnes teradactyls. It's been a while since I used them..!
Older stuff still in active use:
WC Pat Littlejohn harness 20years (my first, no padding so great for over loads of layers)
MT walking axe 22 years
Stubai articulated crampons 22 years
MT Vertige axe and hammer 17 years (OK I don't do a lot of winter climbing !)
MEC base layers and mid layers 15 years (light grey which is far more practical than dark colours)
North Cape fleece salopettes 17 years
I would have put in some Killy ski salopettes which were over 25 years old but they got binned last year !
Berghaus A-Trek 65lt rucksack. Must be 10 years old now (I'm only 23). It's still boss.
One of my late father's drilled nuts on rope. I don't place it often but it reminds me of him teaching me to climb.
> Berghaus A-Trek 65lt rucksack. Must be 10 years old now (I'm only 23). It's still boss.
I also have a pair of pretex pile mitts that are older than 15 years. Forgot them!
1 pair Galibier Super Pro's
1 Pair Galibier Makalu's (triple boots that weigh slightly more than a truck)
1 pair Koflach Ultras
1 pair 'Terrors' axes
1 x original Chacal axe
1 Karrimor Joe Brown Sac, plus a Karrimor Augille Sac, and a Whillans Alpiniste.
1 ME Annapurna Duvet plus an ME Redline Duvet, and a Pied de Elephant half bag made by I think Point 5?
1 x ME Snowline sleeping bag
Helly Hansen Polar Pants
1 x pair of old EB's.
Moac Original, plus an original set of Rocks and other assorted old gear from Clog, Simmond and Cassin.
1 x Think Pink T-Shirt
1 pair of molecord breeches!!!!
1 x Cassin wooden peg hammer
1 pair Salawa bendy crampons, plus 1 pair of Chouinard original 'rigid' crampons.
Most of the above are circa mid 70's, but I just can't bring myself to part with them - too many great memories :-)
I still (occasionally) use a pair of '91 aces..now on their 3rd resole.
My chalkbag is a bucket of a thing.. bought in late 80's.
On special occasions I wear a wild country "Shapes of Things to Cam" T shirt -bought for me as a Christmas present back in the late 70's..along with a WC solid stem friend 2 with the nut ends...still on the rack and on numerous tape rethreads..
I still regularly wear a ME fleece bought in '91..the zip pocket broke after about 2 weeks..and it's still broke..I'm still waiting for the replacement the shop promised!
I have a engineering nut on swaged wire I made in 1974.. always carry it..never used it again!
and my bouldering mat is a 80's Robinsons beer towel. ( OK it's a replacement - last one in a pack of 6 I was given!)
To be honest I don't think anything on my rack is under 10 yrs old!
I still use my Karrimor Annapurna IV Rucksac regularly - bought in '81. Yes, yes, I know it's an external frame, but you can slip off the sack, and lash stuff onto the frame (eg: a motorcycle wheel - it's a long story....). The quality of construction from then is still hard to match today.
A handful of '80's Hexentrics, and my Clog wales stitch-plate does the job fine - '87.
Glad to know I'm not the only one with a drilled nut still in my kit.
My Troll harness (well cared-for) still gives good service, and finally still love my Ultimate Phaser-Dome tent 1980.
Lets make this simpler, can anyone who DOESN'T have an Annapurna duvet say so.
my dads old karrimor alpinist a reasonable enough crag sac,
lovely fluffy now 11 year old polartec 200 fleece
storage late mother in laws EBs which she got just before she had kids so didn't manage to use much.
A Peck nut, from the around 1962 according to this page:
Here's a picture:
Used it a few times, because of the shallow depth there are a few places it will go where my wallnuts won't.
Hey Doug, are we twins?
I have a late 70s ME Annapurna duvet, Pinnacle rucksack, Salewa crampons, Terror hammer & several other similar items. Spooky.
Curver & Koflach Ultras too.
Had a look in the wardrobe last night and I still have at least three or four fleeces from before the Malden Mills factory burnt down. Modern fleece seems to be much less hardwearing and pills like mad, my old Polartec jackets seem to have gone slightly fluffy but not really matted down or pilled like the jacket I bought in April.
I don't know if I can really join in the discussion - I'm younger than some of the "oldest pieces of gear" listed, but I still own and use the very first piece of specifically outdoor* kit/clothing, other than a pair of walking boots, that I owned - a non-descript green jumper from a market stall, rather large for me when I was 12, but it's still in my pack every trip 14 years later!
*Yes, I had been hillwalking with the parents before then, but it was always my everyday mucky clothes and cagoule that I used.
My 1979 Haston Alpiniste sack is no longer used but the closed cell foam back piece gets used every week as a sit mat when I'm eating my butties!
Using my parents Winter Gear 2man tent which must be getting on for 30 years old now, and similarly my dads dachstein mitts which are still the warmest gloves I've had to date which are also about 30 years young, making their combined ages 3 times my age!
Gave my dachsteins away recently to a deserving cause, and lost all my old nuts (incl. pecks) when the car was stolen. Probably did me a favour in some respects, still have too many old runners.
Still in use:
Christmas tree decorations kept in Robert Lawrie (qv) box that held my first proper climbing boots:1964
Dachsteins found on Great End 1968 Darned repeatedly: Backup gloves for skiing
Deadman and ice-screws from about 1969. Carried more than they're used!
ME duvet ?Redline? 1967 Just used for stargazing now.
ME thin fleece shirts 1979:used all the time: climb, ski, walk, garden
Original MOAC (more curved than newer ones)...probably 1968
Stubai Peg Hammer 1969 Still used for rock gardening (in the garden, that is!)
ME Green Dragon Sleeping Bag... perhaps 1977. Needs a fleece liner these days!
As for older kit that sits in the loft... wrought iron crampons, wood-shafted axes, steel crabs, pegs, can't bear to throw them out.
I have an original MOACS bought in the 80s second hand for my first rack. Mountains were designed around MOACS. It gets out more now as I split the rack so my son has a rack. I have 3 MOACS and they are definitely on the top of my favourite gear list.
Got a mid 60'd MOAC I've had since new. It's irreplaceable and by miles my favourite bit of pro. Also one of those tiny Troll wired wedges from the same vintage, although I carry it for luck really. It's called Arthur.
Nothing better than a solid MOAC placement! There is a perfect placement on Peril, at Avon Gorge, although I have to admit I only ever get it out of it's display cabinet when I do that route!...
17 year old Kinnoloa Ground Zero Rope bag and tarp.
I just dug out my 22 year old harness which I'll be using tomorrow night... seemed only fair that if I'm loaning someone a harness it should be my new (15 year old) one.
I regularly use a wooden shafted ice axe but I don't know how old it is... I found it on a hill a few years back.
The oldest bit of kit I use is an ice axe with a pick unit that dates back to the 1930s (I fitted a new shaft in 2010). Still in perfectly good condition!
One of my more innocent ammusments at a climbing wall, when climbing with one of the sorts of stripplings and upstart children found there is when their eyes widen with horror at the sight of my belay device (a classic Sticht plate of course, handles the wall ropes brilliantly).
"Don't stare" I tell them "Treat it with the respect it is due - it is older than you are!"
Chouinard Alpine Hammer.
Pair of Forrest Serac Sabre axes (greet for dinner plating the ice!)
Lowe Latok Goretex jacket, bombproof, possibly not rainproof though!
Helly fibre pile sallies and trsrs, still good under waterproofs!
Wintergear, or was it Snowdon Moulding, Goretex/pile mitts superb!
A sticht plate, that comes up looking new after a polish with steel wool.
BD black prophet, carbon fibre ice hammer, a lovely ice tool.
A few Chouinard ice screws, and Lowe Snargs of god knows what vintage!
I have a pair of Helly Hansen long Johns from 1985 which are still in good condition and Berghaus Rucksac from 1985 also.
My old scarpa mantas are still going strong also, the hs12 leather is a bit battered but still a functional boot. All must be 25years plus old.
The fact a lot of my kit lasts is probably down to me being a mark/mug when it comes to outdoor kit and I replace a lot of kit when there is nothing much wrong with it.
I've just resurrected my strap-on Salewa crampons (c1974) for those days when I might encounter a bit of ice but don't want to walk around all day in B2 boots just on the off-chance. I retired them a few years ago when I realised they were older than my climbing partner (about the same time that I retired my wooden ice axe).
I've got a late 1960's MOAC chock on rope. Hopefully the rope is not as old as the chock. :)
I've got a berghaus cyclops 80l(ish?) rucksac - belonged to a mate and he gave it to me. 1970s/early 80s vintage?? It's been round the world which is further then I have!
Still using a Silva compass-clinometer bought at the start of my geology course in 1979. Sadly, just binned my Vango Force 10 Mk 2 from ca. 1974 - it hadn't been out for a while. My ME Lightline down bag from '85 is still handy for dossing on people's floors.
And gear wise I recently got rid of a lot of old kit moacs, clogg wedges , first gen wildcountry, cams etc, but still use an old set of rp,s , wild country stones, ( not too fussed on the stones though the metal is very hard
I wear two 20 year old pairs of power stretch leggings. They are however heavily darned and have been patched using a power stretch top I cannibalised. They are very comfy and quite warm. I am a bit worried the material is getting too thin to patch in places but do love to wind my walking companions up by still wearing them."you really should get new trousers" 😊
An old Spectrum bandolier I think was a Xmas pressy from 82. Rated to 2000kg but don't think I'll test it other than storeing my rack!
> My 1979 Haston Alpiniste sack is no longer used but the closed cell foam back piece gets used every week as a sit mat when I'm eating my butties!
I've got the Haston Vallot of similar vintage, nice bit of kit.
Having now thought about it some more...I now realise that the oldest bit of gear I have is a 59 yr old belay device - called Eric!
...loads of gear from 1964 Willans harness cocks from Denny Holands factory in wales.....
Whillans harnesses were not available in 1964.
Cocks? Denny Hollands? Perhaps Clogs from Denny Moorhouse?
I'm still using regularly Moac nuts,have original No.3 Friend,occasionally carry soft steel Cassin pegs, and Peck stainless steel pegs. Also Classic Salewa crampons and Chouinard-fFost laminated bamboo axe for general use.
Currently resting in garden shed but most definately NOT used anymore 2x hemp waist lengths and 1 original figure of 8,the old thick wire type,if anyone remembers?
Forgot still always carry several old wedges (Spuds...Clog/Troll I believe) on my bandolier. Because they have a single horizontal hole they don't interfere with its use as a sling and come in handy if I've used all my gear on a pitch and need something for a belay.
Also loft full of old gear inc. hemp waistband, Davek sit harness (pre the Whillans harness)and hawser-laid rope and walking axe 2nd world war surplus.
> 2nd world war surplus.
I've still got some ex - War Department steel karabiners, reportedly used by commandos for D-day training. They still work, even if they are a little heavier than modern ones!!
Unfortunately, I snapped the pick on a Chouinard-Frost - gutted :-(
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