/ fawcett,brown,dawes,livesey,pearson-most inspirational climber
Is the correct answer "the one having the most fun"?
> Is the correct answer "the one having the most fun"?
The correct era adjusted answer is a tie between Fawcett and Brown.
Is the thread limited to British climbers?
But the same goes for for plenty of others.
> But the same goes for for plenty of others.
I don't quite get what you're trying to say.
> I don't quite get what you're trying to say.
I'm saying that plenty have operated at top grades across several disciplines.
> I'm saying that plenty have operated at top grades across several disciplines.
But this is UKC Robert! They have to be likeable British blokes with a bit of a media profile :-)
> But this is UKC Robert! They have to be likeable British blokes with a bit of a media profile :-)
Fawcett (aka God)?
Include non brits too.
Reinhold messner climbed all peaks over 8000 metres first and did everest
without oxygen when medical experts said it was impossible.He climbed the Eiger in 10 hours.In terms of physical fitness and mental strength and self belief I doubt there has been anyone better than him.
He used to train by running 3000 ft uphill on his toes!
But what has he done on grit?
It says on wikipedia's Reinhold Messner page:
Reinhold Messner (born 17 September 1944) is a mountaineer, adventurer and explorer from the Italian autonomous province of South Tyrol, "whose astonishing feats on Everest and on peaks throughout the world have earned him the status of the greatest climber in history."
So I suppose we should all feel inspired by him.
That's why I chose ron fawcett-hard to relate to messner when you dont have 8000m mountains nearby.
> Include non brits too.....
> Reinhold messner.....
If we're allowed foreigners and mountaineers, not just British rock climbers, then it's Bonatti. No contest.
I remember reading how he ascended the petite dru solo and had to lassoo
a flake with the rope to save himself.Nerves of steel.
> The correct era adjusted answer is a tie between Fawcett and Brown.
+ 2, with Ron just getting the top slot.
Met big Ron on several occasions, and it would be hard to find a nicer bloke - and to watch him climb, was a revelation.
I think he is a great bloke, but his inspiration was strictly inverse!
Really surprised more people haven't answered with Johnny Dawes! His ability to understand movement on rock is astounding, as is his mental strength and stamina. Put up tons of new routes and was clearly at the top of the game in his era, definitely the climber whose skills i'd like to have the most!
After that for me its a tie between Joe Brown and Don Whillians, I have most respect for climbers who just want to climb stuff, no b*llsh*t and less competitiveness!
> Really surprised more people haven't answered with Johnny Dawes!
But what has he done on limestone?
8b... at the very least.
Lynn Hill for me,
Must also add Alain Robert, fantastic confidence in his own ability
> Must also add Alain Robert, fantastic confidence in his own ability.
Not really. I mean if you can do the first of 100 identical floors of a building, then I imagine you pretty much know you can do the other 99.
Far more confidence in ability needed for real onsight climbing.
Agreed and point taken, but most people would never solo the stuff he does, granted a lot of climbers could achieve what he does, but stil fair play to him
For someone young like me who has only seen old film of Fawcett and Dawes, I'd say Pete Whittaker. Genuinely nice guy and trains/climbs like an animal.
Dave Graham for inspiring trickery, Patxi Usobiaga for inspiring dedication and training
I saw him on the Committed dvd doing the direct start to Braille Trail.
> If we're allowed foreigners and mountaineers, not just British rock climbers, then it's Bonatti. No contest.
Fawcett for me too. Really nice bloke too if you ever bump into him at the works.
Cunningham was revered by my peers, especially by those that knew him, so by through their tales and marvelling at his skills he was was certainly a strong influence on my climbing direction at that time.
That said I would say that Cubby as been the most constantly inspirational figure for me...watching him efficently move over rock, reading every move with a considered deliberateness and being great bloke with an obvious love of climbing.
Anyone who trains really hard inspires me to be a better climber. So for me Patxi Usobiaga and Markus Bendler
Joe Brown, nice, unassuming bloke who burnt off everybody (for several decades) and all without making a song and dance about it. Add to that a legacy of routes that could keep the average climber inspired for yonks
> Agreed and point taken, but most people would never solo the stuff he does, granted a lot of climbers could achieve what he does, but stil fair play to him
Not sure how hard his stuff on buildings is but he has done really hard solos on rock (up to 8a+ including 7c+ in the verdon)
without oxygen when medical experts said it was impossible.
I never did get the significance of this.
There is little oxygen at 8000 metres
there's no usable water at 8000 metres
there's no food at 8000 metres
There are no clothes at 8000 metres
first aid equipment
> without oxygen when medical experts said it was impossible.
> I never did get the significance of this.
The significace of it is that I don't believe anyone has yet managed to climb alpine style with bottled oxygen. If that were done then I agree it would be no different to all the other stuff in the rucksack. The problem with oxygen is the expedition style it seems to necessitate, not the oxygen itself.
Dawes - Living near Black Rocks I often look up at Gaia / Angel's Share and wonder about the confidence and skill needed to do routes like that.
Joe Brown inspires me the most. An ordinary man, but a idol in the eyes of many.
The significance is that when they embarked on their quest, they were the only people who believed they would be successful and return, thus they entered the true unknown.
No votes yet for Pat Littlejohn? Great explorational rock climber & probably the longest surviving director of the ISM at Leysin.
For me it has always been C.F. Kirkus.
Inspiration is a personal thing and doesn't really have to have anything to do with being the best.
For me the names that come through are Dawes (mainly started from a string of outrageous looking guidebook photos), Dunne (one man against the 'establishment' - whoever that was!) and Tasker (driving to the Himalaya in an old Escort van FFS !).
Johnny Woodward for Beau Geste.
I used to look at that route and think: "How the hell!"
A tentative vote for John Redhead - a man walking the tightrope between courage and madness - routes like Raped by afection on the Rainbow Slab strike terror into the soul of mortals!
How do we feel about Dave Birkett being in this list? I grew up in the lakes, and was starting out in the early 90's when there were local names that were doing high numbers on the high mountain crags, and getting not much credit, nor seeking it. Dave Birkett, John Burrell, Stu Wood, Paul Cornforth et al....
To my knowledge, Dave has never taken full sponsorship, has always had full time employment, yet manages to turn out climbs that are of quality (From being an observer, not trying them, obviously!)each and every time.
Combine this with the fact he has done quality boulder problems, sport routes and even winter climbs that are some of the hardest in the UK
Surely Dave has to be up there for inspirational, a regular guy who loves the Mountains, who climbs for the sake of it, not the Sponsorship....
We used to laugh at his writing because he used big words we couldnt understand
such as prosyletise and perfunctorily.
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