/ Indoor spotting
I disagree, if I'm spotting its to guide a fall safely and minimise the chance of injury, we all know the pads can't completely save you.
It's even comforting sometimes to know that when I'm on a sketchy move in the gym that someone might be able to stop me stumbling upon landing.
In some cases it might be more dangerous (I.e taking a whipper from 4m up may mean you end up kicking some spotter in the head) but I think my point is generally valid. If I'm instructing then the last thing I need is a kid getting hurt and if I'm training I don't want my partner breaking her ankle.
I'm interested in the community's opinion on the matter
If anything I'd say that I need to be used to a slight sense of danger, how could I push myself on trad / bouldering outdoors if I feel unsafe in a bouldering gym?
It's mostly pointless.
Stopping you falling on your head or neck is good, stopping people from walking under you is good.
Stopping you stumbling after you fall on your feet? Really?
Being big and heavy I don't tend to like people spotting me, as it puts a concern in my mind that I might injure them if it isn't done properly and I land on them, and I'm reasonably good at falling safely (even if it does look like a sack of spuds).
I'm with you on this - spotting makes sense
I suppose I would rather not stumble into someone else's path if its busy on the mats etc.
I may be unusual in that I have done nearly all my bouldering on my own, so I am used to not having a spotter (generally, if I have partners, I am doing routes). Spotters can be great, especially when high, but generally indoors I don't tend to see the point. They are sometimes useful on awkward or overhanging moves where there is a strong possibility of an inverted fall or simply as crowd control, but generally I don't think they are required.
On the flip side, I think that learning to fall safely is a vital skill for safe bouldering, so is worth practicing.
Sometimes it just makes sense to spot someone.
Yeah - not always, but on horizontal moves, or moves with a high foot which may bget stuck leading to an inversion, I ask for a spotter.
Or dynos if it's busy...
Because I have a dodgy back, I climb very statically and down climb every problem. I rarely risk doing a move that might result in a fall but if I do want to challenge myself, I will ask for a spot. I'm comparatively light and my climbing partner is strong so he can provide good support. If for example I want to climb an overhanging problem which is difficult to descend, he will support me on my hips whilst I lower down.
I do also find it motivating to have someone below watching me climb - like many people I do climb much better if I'm being encouraged.
I'm generally of the opinion that if I have a spotter, I have a belayer so what am I doing bouldering. This theory works both indoors and out.
> ... I have a belayer so what am I doing bouldering.
Getting stronger? Getting more volume in for a given amount of time?
Are you talking about spotting a leader or a boulderer?
I hardly ever spot or expect to be spotted for the former, (some exceptions, but in that case I'd clip the first draw in advance) but if I'm bouldering I like to have a spotter if I'm up high & sketching of for potentially dodgy moves, eg something involving double heel-hooks where I'm anything more than 3' off the deck!
I know its benefits... I just dont find it interesting. Not that I find indoor climbing really that interesting as a whole.
If I was doing some horizontal moves a fair way off the mat, I would appreciate a spotter ready to slow down my shoulders to ensure that my feet land first. Otherwise, I don't think it's necessary. Outside there is a much greater need for someone to ensure that you actually land on the mat.
> Because I have a dodgy back, I climb very statically and down climb every problem.
Wouldn't you be better off on top rope?
When I've had back and very bad knee trouble I wouldn't even down climb.
> Wouldn't you be better off on top rope?
> When I've had back and very bad knee trouble I wouldn't even down climb.
Yes. And I'm fine leading too. The harness provides great support. But
a) I like bouldering
b) The only decent roped venue near me is always rammed of an evening
c) I go to a yoga class at a bouldering wall so I have a potter before/after
I agree and am in a similar position.
I've never used a spotter, even at the TCA Glasgow which has some high over hanging problems ending in a dymanic lunge. If I feel sketchy I don't go for the last hold, and after breaking an ankle last year (not bouldering), I tend to down climb anyway (plus that's good training).
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