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Alex Ekins - on 15 Jan 2013
The Pylon King on 15 Jan 2013
In reply to Alex Ekins:

Sorry i'm a bit thick. Could you explain it simply please?
fhyndoh - on 15 Jan 2013
In reply to Alex Ekins: The uk government is trying to pass legislation to make "orphan works", like a photograph without a watermark, or photographer data in the EXIF free for big business to advertise their crap with.

Gordon Stainforth - on 15 Jan 2013
In reply to fhyndoh:

The doings of our present government would be scarcely believable if it weren't for the now well-established fact that they are extremely nasty.
Bimble on 15 Jan 2013
In reply to Gordon Stainforth:

They may well be nasty, but at least they've caused some cracking riots to photograph as a result.


As for the topic at hand, Stop43 have got some good info on it all

http://www.stop43.org.uk/faq/faq_us.html

Damo on 15 Jan 2013
In reply to Alex Ekins:

Thanks. Can't believe this is coming up again. The international (Berne etc) aspect alone makes it ridiculous.

As an example of companies stealing images from the net for profit:

"In fact, it was such a good shot that the photographer, Gateshead's Naomi Frost, believes someone stole the image, printed it on thousands of T-shirts and sold them through menswear giant Lowes."

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/photographer-sues-over-stolen-photo-20130115-2cqh1....
Alex Ekins - on 15 Jan 2013
In reply to Alex Ekins:
Here is another good link that explains what's going on - - http://simoncroftsphoto.com/blog/?p=2327
Alex Ekins - on 15 Jan 2013
In reply to Alex Ekins:
Here is another good link that explains what's going on - - http://simoncroftsphoto.com/blog/?p=2327
Bimble on 15 Jan 2013
In reply to Alex Ekins:

The bit that really fecks me off is that a governmental body is taking it upon themselves to control and distribute what is still someone's intellectual property, to collect the nominal fees for use of these 'orphan works', and then only passing them on to the photographer if or when they contact said governmental body to complain.

This fee is likely to be well below standard rates, and I doubt the old recourse of triple rates for unauthorised use will be of any use in this situation.

They don't seem to realise that some of us actually make a living out of these images, and just because we haven't slapped a massive watermark on them it doesn't mean they can steal them from us and re-sell them for their own gain.
Alex Ekins - on 16 Jan 2013
In reply to Alex Ekins:
here is a link to some info about what we can do to stop this happening -
http://www.stop43.org.uk/pages/take_action.html
Damo on 19 Jan 2013
In reply:

Further to that previous link I posted, more examples of image theft by both companies and in some cases governments themselves. Seems it's becoming rampant:
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/were-being-screwed-photographers-and-designers-vent...
halo on 19 Jan 2013
In reply to TryfAndy: Thanks for sharing this.
halo on 19 Jan 2013
In reply to Gordon Stainforth: Strangely enough Gordon, Flickr; or its army of users many of whom have also fallen foul to this predicament myself included.

I have a website and yes my images are digitally watermarked, but it does not stop someone using them images or a body work for some backstreet blogger.

Since the birth of the internet it has become too easy for some with knowledge to commit some form of plagiarism or even worse actually steal someone's work, and use it to benefit themselves financially.

I have come across some of my work on Asian blogs, or some other far off place; were by because of my ignorance, I cannot understand the context in which my work has been used purely from an English speaking perspective.

Which does make it harder however, they're those who do give credit were credits due.

This though, is completely demoralising to the artists themselves, it's another form of control and we all know historically; where that has lead in the past.

We inevitably get pushed harder and harder and then of course we either break or make...we are on the very precipice of change.

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