/ Pen Yr Ole Wen
what is it like in soft snow, full winter nick and bare rock?
is it an enjoyable route?
I like it as a way up, you'll get great views of Tryfan and the glyders and into cwm lloer..
I doubt it classes as a scramble.. or winter route.. certainly very low in the grade 1 territory, but I've never done it iced up. However even though it is short its quite exposed and a fall would be nasty..
cheers. so it doesn't warrant a rope?
after the ascent do you recommend going across the carneddau rather than down the south ridge?
So summit > Dafydd > Llewelyn, then out East and either descend via the horrific concrete road or do one or two of the next peaks.. Pen yr lithrigg Wrach and Pen yr helgi Du.. I forget the order..
The descent of Carnedd Llewelyn, around Craig yr Ysfa is a rocky nose too.. easier than the way up the E ridge but also worth being cautious with.. the ascent up the next peak is a stunning airy ridge.. looks imposing as you approach but in fact very straight forwards.
Normally no rope is needed. I never have even considered one, but a short walking confidence rope may be a decent idea. I'm not in Snowdonia at the moment so don't know what condition it is in.
perfect. that route is a definite for me then.
anyone recently been up to either of the above peaks?
If you run short on time it is possible to descend south from Rhos Bodesi (above the Black Ladders) back to the mouth of Cwm Lloer. You can also descend south from near Craig Llugwy, if you pick up the Afon Bodesi there is a signed path lower down that takes you to Oggi Base (Bryn Poeth).
Hi, ski'd up the waterboard road from the A5 (towards Fynnon Llugwy resr) yesterday from the A5, did a small loop off to the right and up on to the ridge and back down the same way.
Loads of snow, a few icey patches, (unfortunately watching the rescue too)
Looking at the forecast it shouldbe very similar for at least today and maybe tomorrow too, currently light snowfall here nearer sea level too)
We were in the area on Sunday. Just uploaded a photo of the base of the E ridge on Sunday morning, so it'll be the solitary photo in my gallery after moderation (exciting new experience). We saw 2 people descending the ridge, looked as though there was an awkward bit for descent at least, probably the bit another poster refers to. We decided against, not really in the mood for it, and slogged up to Dafydd and took care not to walk over the Black Ladders. Fair amount of soft snow in places, which I suppose may have consolidated by now.
Thanks for the further advice and the photo's people.
it sounds lovely. sods law all this snow will be gone for when I make the trip!
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