/ Rock vandalism at Robin Hood's & Cratcliffe
Very bad news. :o(
How bigs the damage? are we talking kids lobbing rocks up or more mechanised damage??
> How bigs the damage? are we talking kids lobbing rocks up or more mechanised damage??
Deliberate I would say; there's marks round and about the damage, like whatever was used glanced off the rock.
Such a shame. It didn't look like the work of kids throwing rocks.......
A real shame if this is true. I was planning to head up this week so will take some pics.
Are all the chips either reachable from the ground or from a basic scramble? Might be a wayward geology buff, its happened before.
2 jugs on the start of razor roof itself and one of the good crimp on the right hand 7a+
I took some photos earlier, posted on my blog here:
Razor Roof looked like it would climb at the same grade. The damage has left a real mess at both venues and the newly exposed rock is incredibly crumbly.
Thanks for those photo's Wil. Can we have permission to show them at the next Peak area meeting? Of course someone was bashing Joes Slab at Froggatt not so long back as well.
That does look like attempted hold improvement in some cases.
Looks to me like an attack on popular boulder problems by someone with a crazy grudge. Certainly on Joe's Slab they seem to have targeted obvious holds; I know these problems and it looks like that here as well and I'll be going for a closer look.
> Looks to me like an attack on popular boulder problems by someone with a crazy grudge. Certainly on Joe's Slab they seem to have targeted obvious holds; I know these problems and it looks like that here as well and I'll be going for a closer look.
Yeah, something like that - a climber or someone with knowledge of climbing. Prob not a demented geologist. I have wild fantasies about catching someone during the act, armed with my light sabre. Grrrr.
Gutted, it looms quite widespread. Thanks for the photos Wil.
Yes. At least in theory this could be brushed off. Unfortunately in practice it either isn't, or can't be. I did Razor Roof a few weeks ago and it was smothered then, and it also had huge tickmarks on it. I brushed the tickmarks off, but the rest of the chalk was pretty well bedded in and with the rock being quite soft I didn't make much effort to clean it up.
I wonder with the current popularity of bouldering whether we shouldn't all be making more effort to use less chalk, particularly on something steep where it won't wash off.
...is unfortunately rubbish.
> Yes. At least in theory this could be brushed off. Unfortunately in practice it either isn't, or can't be.
It can be brushed off fine, it just needs to be wet to do a proper job. Hence why it rarely happens. Plus these are popular spots.
And what then? pitchforks at the ready?
I've never been to the area and haven't done much bouldering but have there been any access isssues with the landowner? That looks like it's been done deliberately to make them unclimbable (not like there is such a thing!).
Is that a euphemism? ;-)
However, maybe some 'non climbing' folk are getting hacked off with the ludicrous amounts of chalk plastered all over the place (replace Cratcliffe with any other gritstone crag)
I'm hacked off with take-away litter but I don't go round smashing shop windows. Bashing rock with a hammer is not a rational response to anything.
after grit has been damaged this way, is it best to Not boulder on these routes and allow weathering the time to work or just carry on regardless?..
This was pretty clearly not done to make the problems easier. It's an attack on (chalked up) problems.
Although boulderers are massively chalk trigger happy, the fact someone would take time to carry a hammer up to the crag to smash some problems suggests they arn't exactly of balanced mind.
I've always found it comical watching boulderers madly brushing holds before over and needlessly chalking their hands.
No convinced, there might be an element of that, but they picked odd targets if this was an anti chalk rampage.
These chips were definitely not done to make the problems easier, because hardly any of them would!
Thats why I put chalked up in brackets.
It could be kids playing with a lump hammer - I've seen graffitti "tagging" on small boulders and trees at ringinglow before (which I removed with a wire brush (not climbing boulders). In which case it's down to general education about countryside.
Too high for kids and likley too widespread to be a group of older teenagers just messing around.
Karl ( Lichfield)
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