/ Alpine Grades for Wales
I think they would get F.
Given that quite a few hut approaches are graded climbs in their own right - eg the Couvercle (F+), Conscrits (F) and the Ecrins (F) - I'm not sure that suggesting that the Tryfan and Snowdon ridges are *only* hut walks is particularly illuminating.
I think Crib Goch and Bristly Ridge would be F.
I don't think he said, or meant that. It was in reference to the fact that some approaches to alpine huts are harder than Grib Goch even though the alpine approaches have no grade.
They do in Martin moran's guidebook- is that not common practice? It's.the only alpine guidebook I've got so I assumed they all did the same
The approach to the Mischabel hut is longer and harder than Tryfan North Ridge, and is given W2. It's also the steepest walk in I've done. Coming down is knee shattering.
Just because the odd route is ungraded.. grib goch shouldn't be.. its a serious route.. to argue otherwise is crazy. In winter its ruddy serious.
> They do in Martin moran's guidebook- is that not common practice? It's.the only alpine guidebook I've got so I assumed they all did the same
They do, or at least all the common ones do. Some huts get quite high grades for the approach.
Quite right - as I tried to point out in an earlier posting...
Pejorative comparisons between the OP's routes and hut approaches don't help answer her/his question. But at least Iain, you and I seem to be agreed that the answer is F.
Scottish winter grades in comparison with the alps has been fairly widely discussed elsewhere on UKC. Interestingly, the OP's comparison hasn't, iirc.
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