/ Black Ladders Vs Scafell
Moss ghyll (Lakeland IV = V in reality) or Western gully?
Any suggestions and conditions advice appreciated. Ladders sounded abit black and Lakes looks to have had better frosts...
Scafell. Can't comment on conditions, (but would e interested if you head up,) but Moss Ghyll is excellent. Prob' IV 5/6.
Western Gully is brilliant, especially with the right hand finish. I suspect the turf will still be frozen and the ice dribbles will still be there for the weekend. As far as I recall, it isn't really turf dependent on the main pitches but the approach pitches are. More of an issue I suspect will be the lack of snow. Depends how white you like the crag to be!
With the direct option on the second technical pitch, I should say. That and the RH finish makes for a pretty sustained route at V/VI.
To be honest weatherline now has the lakes looking a bit warm for the weekend...
Moss Ghyll is not in unfortunatly... there is other routes in though. have put some info on here -
Thanks for the post. That save's a long drive and walk! I was hoping that shady gullies like CG would still be ok if the FL drops tommorrow...
Western has good ice low down but the chimney pitch and cave pitch are very dry, the direct (right hand finish) is well iced, currently I'd say its a fairly meaty VI 6 but well good value at that grade.
photos from yesterday on blog -
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