/ NEW REVIEW: Mountain Hard Shells
Read more at http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=5244
i'm sorry but 500 pounds on a jacket? do people ever buy this stuff at RRP, and if so who are they?
Us lucky few who have more time than we know what to do with and can either wait around until we see one at TK Maxx for £5.99 or experiment outdoors until we discover that bin bags do the job well enough that we can spend all that cash on a new set of cams that we don't need.
And which is the best?
In most cases, you get what you pay for. There's a reason you don't see as many lower grade makes on the hills, because people trust a well known, tried and tested Gucci company
Mountain equipment is a well know. Tried and tested brand isn't it
Yes I understand that Martin. 200 is still a lot more than a crappy no make. I could list loads of reason not to buy a budget jacket. But it all depends on how often your going to use it.
We don't need to argue about what makes are good and what are crap.
I wasn't talking about crappy no makes (although you may include North Ridge in that if you wish despite their positive comments on here over the last few years) but simply cheaper than within the review.
I have mentioned it before though, I do think that a review of a range of products should include a range of budgets.
The review would have been far more useful if it had compared the different materials and offered a "best budget buy" and best "performance" sort of catagories.
The review offered nothing much more than walking into Cotswolds with £500 and trying on a couple of jackets.
Maybe I'm on a one-man crusade though!
Do testers/reviewers get to keep jackets, are they free or heavily discounted.
If handed out free to testers or massively discounted, i would also be reviewing
stupidly expensive jackets. And then not even rate them????
Thanks for the review. It would be even more useful if the "fit" section differentiated between fit for men and fit for women. Unless the fit is for a generic manwomanmountainperson? Seems to be getting harder to find a good mountain hardshell that fits women.
I'm sorry but give me examples of jackets that are one hundred pound and are equivilant to the jackets in the review.
All the jackets are technical well made thought out peices of kit.
I don't see the problem, there are plenty of reviews around on the Internet for every jacket you want.
These jackets are designed for extreme use, there not for ruff ramblers
if it helps, my wife has found that the Patagonia, RAB and Arcteryx hard shells or indeed most of the female specific jackets have a great fit for women.
Pricey, but she tries them on and then gets onto good old fleabay!
Hope this helps, Den
Did heshe say that they new of equivalent jackets for £100 ?
Thanks Denni. The Rab Latok (not the Alpine) seems to have a good women's cut, but looks to be discontinued and impossible to get in many sizes.
> In most cases, you get what you pay for.
To a certain level; and then your just paying heaps extra for not alot more,, maybe a name,,
In most cases
To a certain level
= the same
You are always paying for the name when buying high standard branded equipment.
The company has built its name and credibility.
Would you trust a no brand peice of climbing protection
Would rather not, but saying that i do have some hand me down hexes that appear to be brand less, still use them though (theyre pretty chunky). I do get your point though and that we are paying for a name because they make quality, its just that in the past couple of years prices have nearly doubled and they seem to be using pretty much the same materials just fancy colours and zips. Its a big jump from 200 to 500 quid for a jacket and for that extra 300 quid your not getting a whole lot more. But f*ck it if i could afford a 500 quid jacket with rad colours and contrasting zips i would,
Haha, I must admit I am abit of a gear junkie.
Consumerism does take its hold
Outdoor shops are definitely dangerous places :)
Anna, my wife, has a Patagonia Triolet jacket that is a really good fit for her. Size large, she is a 12/14 and it fits her ridiculously good.
Before that she had an older North Face jacket, goretex xcr that she had for about 6 years. Again in a large and a womens cut. Fitted her perfectly as well and when she has tried jackets on in the shops, as I said she found the RAB, Arcteryx, Patagonia and even the North Face ones were really a good fit.
Only reason we bought the Patagonia one was because we were in Canada and it was so cheap it was ridiculous! Hope you find one.
> These jackets are designed for extreme use, there not for ruff ramblers
I gave the example of one coat which I got for £100 pounds in a sale but my point was not about coats being that cheap but simply cheaper than those reviewed. I would imagine that most people wouldn't need any extra performance from Coats at £550 pounds compared to the £200 range for example. Oh and by people I don't mean North face of the High Street use but those on this site who may go ice climbing, winter climbing Alpine Climbing and winter walking.
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