/ ropes????? half or single
for UK trad, get a pair of 50m half ropes.
you can also use them for winter and alps.
you will only really need single for sports or, ideally, v easy classic alpine climbing (but can use one half rope if you understand the risks).
it really depends on what you plan to do. A single rope is convenient and generally robust but half ropes are a lot more flexible.
ps: 60m half ropes may be convenient in some circumstances but i really wouldn't bother until you know what you know what you will spend your time doing.
Do any of your partners have a half rope; often each climbing partner brings along a half rope each? Can save you buying two.
> ps: 60m half ropes may be convenient in some circumstances but i really wouldn't bother until you know what you know what you will spend your time doing.
I think 60s are more useful in places like the Peak as you can just use one folded in half.
If I were only doing trad I'd opt for half ropes.
At the moment planning in buying a set of mammut genesis or phoenix, depending which I find on sale first and my feelings towards durability.
This article may be of interest since it covers several triple-rated ropes which are both half and single.
Personally I have been using a few of the ropes in this article and I would never buy anything other than a triple-rated rope anymore, but I do bits of trad and sport and never really 'work' sport routes.
Clipping overhead is a bad habit anyway: wastes energy and increases risk. (Of course there may be special situations, such as a comfy stance with a placement far overhead, but these should be the exception not the norm)
I have just bought a pair from the link below.
Beal Cobra II 8.6mm 50m Golden Dry £147 delivered for a pair. Ordered on the Tuesday, arrived on the Friday.
Disadvantages: There'll be some extra weight, and singles cost more than halfs.
Any of Beal Cobra, Mammut Genesis or DMM Prophet will give you good service.
Things are no longer as simple as they once were as single ropes are now available down to 8.7mm and 60m or even 70m ropes are increasing common. However, the routes most people climb haven't changed, so I'd strongly recommend sticking with fairly standard option of 50m doubles around 8.5mm unless you have a very particular reason not to.
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