/ Another ice axe question
Have been looking at the nomics and fusions, slightly concerned over the grip rest issues with the nomics as not cheap even if they have so called been resolved. I'm predominately climbing north face routes, alpine mixed and ice.
Stick with the vipers or get some fusions?
BTW I thought consensus was the nomics grip rest issues have not been resolved, see Danes site for more info.
at grade III, 3 I doubt they make that much difference unless your feet slip and your axes grip, in which case grip rests I suspect will make a big difference in preventing a fall. The harder end of tech 4 is around where I think having grip rests will make a larger difference climbing leashless.
cheers guys, i've read all the reviews for both axes and that the nomic was still having some problems with its grip rest.
i started off my winter climbing on dmm flys which were fine but since spending a few years with the vipers, i do prefer climbing leashes (sometimes with tethers) and i like the grip rest. Just wondered if anyone out there was using the fusion for the type of climbing i do or are they just overkill.
I don't really know what type of climbing you do, your fav. climbs on your profile are mainly classic alpine routes where I can't imagine Fusions would bring many advantages over Vipers and might have a few disadvantages such being REALLY HEAVY.
Did I mention that they are HEAVY? ;)
I prefer alpine mixed (triangle du tacul, burnier vogler sort of thing) over scottish mixed (if that makes sense) ive found the two quite different. daft as it sounds its easier for me in the south of england to get to the alps than drive up to scotland. i haven't had to chance to have a swing with the fusion but i had heard they feel heavy.
perhaps best to stick with the vipers
Not entirely sure why you would want to change an all round tool for BD's 'premier mixed climbing tool' given the sort of routes that you're doing. However, if you had said that you wanted to spend the rest of your days upside down in a cave......
dont get me wrong i love my vipers and i have played with various axes from petzl, grivel, cassin and i'd still go back to my vipers. just interested to see if people are using the newer fusion and their views on it and what they use it for
:) Did I remember to mention that?
I would buy Nomics over Fusions any day of the week, especially if I was climbing ice.
Cheek out the the Pinnacle Film, where Dave Macleod (sponsored by BD) and Andy Turner (sponsored by Petzl) repeat all the routes climbed by Smith and Marshall during that legendary week they had on the Ben.
Dave is using Fusion 2s, whilst Andy is using Nomics. Andy get first time sticks most of the time, whilst it takes Dave several swings to get a good placement.
I've just noticed that BD appear to have dropped the Reactor - that's a great shame because it was a proper leashless all-rounder and great for Scotland with a 4x4 pick, adze and hammer. Best not lose one of mine I suppose.
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