/ Haute route record question

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smithaldo - on 23 Apr 2013
Whilst out with a pal on friday I mentioned that the haute route record had been broken in about 18.5 hours.

He asked whether they get the bus like on the classic route.

Anyone know?
Blinder - on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to smithaldo: It is church to church and no buses. I can not find the article on the record. But this attempt gives some details on the route

http://benbardsley.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/chamonix-to-zermatt-is-long-way.html#!/2013/04/chamonix-to...
Haggis Trap on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to smithaldo:

Classic HR goes via Bourg St Pierre / La Fouly (with no bus). The recent trend for getting a bus from Champex to Verbier makes the route easier with better ski descents. Plus you can then use Mont Fort cable car on day 2 if required.

More info / route...

http://www.chamonet.com/events/news/new-record-for-haute-route.html
kenr - on 23 Apr 2013
Taking a bus or taxi from Champex to Verbier (or Bourg St Pierre) has been done by many parties for at least 40 years.

Actually in one unofficial "record" in recent years, they rode _bicycles_ from Champex to Bourg St Pierre.

Ken
Haggis Trap on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to kenr:

^ purists sometimes do the Grand Lui version via La Fouly (no taxi)
kenr - on 25 Apr 2013
And without doing it that way, the concept is a bit of a fraud.

Since lots of people tell it like they skied a long tour from Chamonix to Zermatt. But actually they did not: rather two short ski tours separated by a bus ride.

And if the bus/taxi is from Champex to Verbier (instead of Bourg St Pierre), then the two short tours are not even very closely linked. Rather contrived.

Much simpler to book four days in Chamonix and do great single-day tours or nice lift-served powder- or corn-snow skiing (or shopping) as desired. Then an evening bus/train ride to Zermatt for three more days of the same.

Ken
Haggis Trap on 25 Apr 2013
In reply to kenr:

^ by that metric it is fraud if you stay in an artificial mountain hut ?
or use the Grand Montets cable car at the start ?
skiing is meant to be fun ;-)
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kenr - on 25 Apr 2013
In reply to Haggis Trap:
> skiing is meant to be fun ;-)

Yes - that's why I suggested staying four days in Chamonix then three days in Zermatt -- skip the slogging in between. Ride lifts up to the best skiing in the best weather. Surf the web, go shopping, and sample a wider variety of food and drink during bad weather.

When you get home, claim that you skied from Chamonix to Zermatt. Show your friends and family your best photos, just don't tell them where you shot them (or "borrow" a few well-chosen photos of huts).

The only people who will get irritated hearing your story are a few skiers who actually tried to do the whole Haute Route -- and now must experience the humiliation of seeing how you chose an easier superior method.

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