/ Keeping climbing shoes fresh.
I've been using some spray to little effect, and I don't like all the chemicals in them, so I was wondering if anyone had any tips to keep climbing shoes smelling like rose.
wear thin socks
> wear thin socks
More mile running socks are 5 pairs for £8 on ebay. To thin for a running sock, so I use them for climbing. Just the job.
Yep, thin socks. A no-brainer imo. I hate the feel of my sweaty feet against the leather......eugh!
THe banana boots work fantastically, but usually only when they're used from new.
Can't recommend the boot bananas highly enough! Am now even allowed the shoes in the bedroom rather than outside the house!
What ever you do, don't keep them in a bag or sealed in any way, make sure they can air.
I've heard of all sorts of remedies, but none are totally effective
đont other with any of the peddled shite.
keep your soes clipped to the outside of your pack. ɣepp both your shoes and feet clean
Be careful about drying them.
Wear thin socks! (Best thing I've done).
I use Oder Eaters spray as well, which seems to work very well.
washing machine and clipping to outside of pack for me.
Washing machine doesn't seem to do any damage.
Have you tried it?
It makes no difference at the punter end of the spectrum (and not a lot at the elite end judging by some photos of cutting edge climbers wearing socks!
I personally don't want my hot, sweaty feet spending the day in a bath of chemical sprays which probably weren't designed to be next to the skin (ie most people wear shoes and socks).
+1 for the bananas. I found them much more effective than actual bananas...
Nothing wrong with wearing socks, of course. Nothing wrong with being a sub-extreme climber either. Can't help noting that the two tend to go together, though.
Good advice for the OP then
Socks are the future. Tiny trainer socks avoid the '80s look but stop the vultures circling looking for the rotting carcass.
They make no difference in terms of sensitivity to the rock, at least up to E2.
> Socks are the future. Tiny trainer socks avoid the '80s look but stop the vultures circling looking for the rotting carcass.
> They make no difference in terms of sensitivity to the rock, at least up to E2.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. Personally I like using very small footholds and smears, even on lower grade routes, and therefore I favour a pretty tight shoe for all routes - no room for socks.
If climbing a lower grade route on which I'd consider socks, I'd usually go the whole hog and do it in trainers.
> Good advice for the OP then
Possibly - unless you take the view that wearing socks under climbing shoes slows the development of good foot technique.
> wear thin socks
Another vote for socks. Stops the shoe slipping around your foot if you have sweaty feet like me and keeps your feet warm in the winter.
If your boots are tight without socks, surely they'd be even tighter with socks?
At my best (E3/4) I wore socks and socks were definitely not the limiting factor
> If your boots are tight without socks, surely they'd be even tighter with socks?
Sorry - don't understand. I think you misinterpreted what I was saying, or perhaps I expressed myself badly. I like a tight shoe with no socks for a real feeling of contact with the rock, pretty much regardless of grade.
Well it would be a limiting factor for me, but we're all different!
Dave Macleod sometimes wears socks, I guess the fact that it's not always means it does make a difference. But possibly not to we punters :-)
I use diluted teatree oil in a little spray bottle. that and always leave boots in breathable (i.e. cloth, net) bags. seems to work well.
Sorry I assumed when you mentioned tight boots and good contact with the rock you were implying that looser boots were worse, from that I extrapolated to tighter boots would be better.
FWIW, my limiting factors are in decreasing order:
1. Head strength
2. Finger strength
3. Arm strength
You wear them without socks and peform exercise. They do not breathe because they are covered in rubber. They get loaded up with dead skin and bacteria.
WASH THEM you fools!
Just once every few months, squirt a bit of hand fabric washing liquid in there, fill with hot water and soak for a bit. Next, scrub like b*ggery with a long handled dish washing brush. Ooh and aah at the filth that comes out. Rinse a couple of times and dry with newspaper then radiator.
Hey presto, lovely boots. Super sticky rubber again too. The rubber might delaminate a bit at the edges but I've never had this happen to any meaningful extent.
Agree with the advice on airing out shoes after a session - particularly if they've gotten a bit sweaty in the process. Have tried a few chemical solutions, periodic washing etc but the best thing is really just to make sure that they're not sitting sealed up in your bag between trips but get aired out (sunny windowsill works well) - should see them right. :-)
Tea tree oil is the go. Eucalyptus maybe second. Good for the skin too.
A dilution of hydrogen peroxide works too.
I use homemade little bags that I presume are a bit like the banana things. I put some talculm powder + bicarbonate of soda in the end of some tights & tie them off with thread. Seems to work pretty well if you put them in straight after climbing. Though, as others have said about the bananas, definitely work better if you use them from new.
> Er, i dont think so!
I said tend to, not always - there are exceptions!
Modern thin sports socks will barely affect fit and will reduce stink. If you are working at the outer limits of foot placement, fair enough, but 99% of climbers are never there and even those who are, are not there all of the time. At your grades you're not close, so you're just a fashion victim ;-)
Bumblies like me (leading the odd extreme and rarely bouldering in the high F6 grades/ hard UK 6a and above) should be wearing thicker socks all the time: keeps shoes clean and keeps feet warm and the midges away from ankles.
Yes i agree, modern thin sports socks make no difference to performance.
Typically opinionated, black-and-white, dogmatic, I'd have to say. We're all different and get used to climbing in different ways. I've tried climbing in socks, and even with very thin ones I just don't feel the rock as much as I want - and this affects my performance. Just because this isn't true for you doesn't mean it can't be true for me.
I find it helps to air them as much as poss, wash them from time to time and store them stuffed with old tights packed with odour absorbing cat-litter.
"Typically opinionated, black-and-white, dogmatic, I'd have to say."
You would say though wouldn't you. I started off 25 years ago with no socks and my shoes reeked and despite washing shoes in the washing machine from time to time and airing them, the nasty slimy gunk that slowly built up caused them to rotate a bit, unless over-tightened, and the stench in the end was the main cause I threw a pair away.
An old duffer advised me to try them with socks and I found I could wear the shoes slightly less tight for the same performance and the shoes didnt stink and I could wear them to death and resole time after time for comfort mountaineering days. I can even keep 10 pairs in the same room without triggering Obama's chemical weapons clause in the UN.
More recently performance socks have got thinner and thinner taking even the disadvantage of lack of feel away. I can see how the very top performers when working hard might prefer to go without at times; Uk 6c upwards sort of stuff. Also a few folk are lucky as their feet dont sweat very much at all. However anyone not that lucky or at those lofty performance levels I'd challnge to sock it and see; if only because you cant agrgue the benfits of no socks unless you have tried them and found them worse.
Then of course there is the foot damage problem. Any podiatrist will explain why wearing over-tight shoes all the time will likly trash your feet causing painful bunions etc in old age.
"Typically opinionated, black-and-white, dogmatic, I'd have to say."
He is correct
You would be god then to know that ?;-)
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