/ Help, British climbers currently pushing boundries

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payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
This is a discussion point on an instructor’s course I am attending in a couple of weeks.
I have my own opinions, but am interested in what the guys on UKC think?
Currently I have:
Macleod – All rounder-achieving high grades in all styles
Whittaker- offwidth climbing very impressive ticks bagged in the states
Randall-New routing in the islands and Whittaker’s partner in the state.
Buys-very hard repeats
Caff- as above.

there are obviously more.......

Now I know some may not class REPEATS as pushing boundries so what do you think??
AlanLittle - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

Stevie H: a member of no less than *two* exclusive groups of 9a climbers: over-50s and Brits

Mick Fowler.
pebbles - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:
Findlay - first female E9
Coxsey - first british woman to climb v12 and v13
Buys - which one? Naomi or Jordan? there are two, you know! Both oustanding climbers
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to pebbles: Apologies sister, there was definitely no disrespect aimed at our massive crop of outstanding female climbers, i meant Jordan, but i am very aware that Naomi is an awesome climber too.
pebbles - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: LOL, go easy with the 'sister' stuff ;-D
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to pebbles: OK Sorrrrrryyy .............#awkwardsilence lol
victim of mathematics - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

Does pushing the boundaries of punterdom count?
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to victim of mathematics: i dont think so?
stonemaster - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to victim of mathematics: If it does, will the rest of you form an orderly line right here please...:)
stonemaster - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: Gosh darn it....:)
Blue Straggler - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

Bear Grylls pushes the boundaries of credibility :-)
Blue Straggler - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

You may need to define "boundaries" (and spell it correctly).
Does "first female E9" count as a boundary for you?
pebbles - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: tee hee, wasnt meaning to inspire terror ;-D
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: GUYS GUYS!!

This is actually a serious thread lol screw the nut!!
jon on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to pebbles:
> (In reply to payney1973)
> Findlay - first female E9
> Coxsey - first british woman to climb v12 and v13
> Buys - which one? Naomi or Jordan? there are two, you know! Both oustanding climbers

I'm surprised you didn't pull him up about Whittaker. Pete or Katy?
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: but Bear Grylls Ill keep that little PR&&K in mind!!
stonemaster - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:
> (In reply to payney1973) GUYS GUYS!!
>
> This is actually a serious thread lol screw the nut!!

One is lost. What nut is this thou speakest off?
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: Pete and YES i am aware Katy is awesome........... note to self, check family lineage before posting on UKC lol
Quiddity - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

Rather than just a list of top trumps, I would have thought a more interesting discussion would revolve around questions like this

> Now I know some may not class REPEATS as pushing boundries so what do you think??

Does specialising in repeating very hard things very quickly count as pushing boundaries? I think a convincing case could be made.

Personally I think the field of british climbing that is most genuinely pushing boundaries at the moment is bouldering, especially women's bouldering - eg. Shauna's recent ascent of Nuthin' but Sunshine.
lanky_suction1 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

Mina's ascent of Careless Torque is certainly notable. And I agree, a discussion about what 'pushing the boundaries 'actually means is probably more relevant and interesting than a simple list.
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to Quiddity: aware of this mate and its exactly what im looking for, the question actually reads 'one climber who is currently pushing standards and making a significant impact on the rock climbing world?'

I chose to go for the British climbers because im British, i mean i could make it simple and say Ondra but that is what everyone would say, isnt it?
lithos on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

just seen you now tell us the question grrrr

apart from DM nothing in there on winter esp scottish
I can't begin to list the people doing wacky stuff
but people like Guy Robertson, Nick Bullock, Greg Boswell

and of course the 'sponsored heros' like Timmy Mallet on the spray on stuff in Canada

plus the alpinist stuff and alaska and gt ranges and .....

just an idea but trawl the news articles on here and have a think what will shape your talk
pebbles - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to lithos: another vote for Timmy Mallett, who is a role model for those of us carrying a few extra kg...http://www.brillianttv.co.uk/timmymallett/
stonemaster - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to lanky_suction1: Eek! You mentioned Mina! <swoons>
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: cheers guys, that's what I'm after, not sure if winter climbing and alpism would be acceptable on a rock climbing course, but I think the more arrows I have in my quiver the better.

Thanks
payney1973 - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: sorry auto correct 'alpinism'
James S - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973: steve mcclure, tim emmett, leo houlding!
SCrossley on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:
Why no mention of D Birkett?
Hardonicus - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

I'm fairly sure only onsights count wrt boundary pushing.

In which case shouldn't Neil Dickson be featuring?
Michael Gordon - on 16 Jul 2013
In reply to payney1973:

"Currently pushing boundaries" I think should mean the top climbers that are still improving and bettering their previous efforts. Otherwise it just means those who have 'done some boundary pushing' in the past which is an awful lot of folk!
payney1973 - on 17 Jul 2013
In reply to Michael Gordon: yeah it's current, there is another Q on who in the past has pushed boundaries.
I'm inclined to go with the boulder scene at the moment as the others are impressive hard repeats.
Maybe Leo H for exploratory climbing?

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