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TRip - on 13 Mar 2014
Question:

What do the Sloth, Shrike and the Rasp have in common?

Clue they have all been on something but none of them are in it.

First right answer gets to write the next question.
The Ex-Engineer - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip: They featured on the cover of Hard Rock!

Robert Durran - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

On the cover of Hard Rock?
Robert Durran - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> They featured on the cover of Hard Rock!

Beat me to it by no more than 10 seconds!
TRip - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Your go!
The Ex-Engineer - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip: Who thought that Vector should be graded 6a,7-0-0-2 and Cemetery Gates 5b,6-0-1-1 and in which guidebook was this revolutionary but ultimately unsuccessful grading system first published?
The Ex-Engineer - on 13 Mar 2014
Clue - the individual in question both wrote an essay in Hard Rock and was the first ascensionist of one of the 60 routes.
davidalcock - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> Who thought that Vector should be graded 6a,7-0-0-2 and Cemetery Gates 5b,6-0-1-1 and in which guidebook was this revolutionary but ultimately unsuccessful grading system first published?

Ed Drummond, '67 Avon Gorge.
The Ex-Engineer - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to davidalcock: Well done! Over to you...

The exact title of the guide was 'Extremely Severe in the Avon Gorge' but it was subtitled 'the 1967 Guide to the harder climbs'.

In reply to davidalcock:

Wasn't the system used in a booklet called "Extremely Severe in the Avon Gorge" with all his new routes in?


Chris
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> Well done! Over to you...

> The exact title of the guide was 'Extremely Severe in the Avon Gorge' but it was subtitled 'the 1967 Guide to the harder climbs'.

Bingo!


Chris
jon on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to Chris Craggs and Ex:

Come on then...

In reply to jon:

What was my 1000th route on Stanage?



Chris
jon on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to Chris Craggs:

Peapod.
The Ex-Engineer - on 13 Mar 2014
The Ex-Engineer - on 13 Mar 2014

Not going brilliantly fast, but here goes...

Which literary figure connects an E6 in Llanberis Pass, an E3 at Kellan Head in Cornwall and an E1 on Creag Druim Eadar da Choire in Skye?
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Goucho on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Thomas Hardy?
The Ex-Engineer - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to Goucho:
> Thomas Hardy?

Sorry, no.

Red Rover - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

William Golding
The Ex-Engineer - on 13 Mar 2014
In reply to Red Rover: Well done, over to you.

Lord of the Flies E6
Darkness Visible E3
Rites of Passage E1

Al Evans on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Red Rover:

Come on, I'm waiting for the next one I won't be able to get?
Choss on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Red Rover:

Next Question please?
Red Rover - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Choss:

Sorry for the delay been working. Will think of one soon.
Red Rover - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

What day of the week is abominable on the other side of the world?
Red Rover - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Red Rover:

I'll rephrase it:

What day of the week is abominable in Australia?
Robin Woodward - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Red Rover:

Thursday?
Red Rover - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Robin UK:

Correct over to you.
Robin Woodward - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Red Rover:
Ok... Which route lets you Bumble up a Buttress at Break-time by the Beach?
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Robin Woodward - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

Ok, too hard...

Clue 1: It's an end of the road E1 with the potential for independence.
Robin Woodward - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

Clue 2: It's not so much Road-side, but Sea-side and Skye-side...
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The Ex-Engineer - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Robin UK: Bee Keeper's Bother E1 5b http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=31064 on School House Buttress, Elgol, Skye?

Not certain, but I climbed it back in 1998 and it seems to fit the clue...

Robin Woodward - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

That's the one! Sorry if it was too cryptic. Very surreal route with children playing in the playground below.

Over to you.
The Ex-Engineer - on 14 Mar 2014
Which literary figure is linked to a mountain in Applecross, one of the Three Sisters and a quarry in Cheshire?

(Sorry for delay, struggling to come up with another non-trivial question and my internet has been playing up.)
johncoxmysteriously - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> Which literary figure is linked to.... the Three Sisters?

Chekhov!?

(You do mean Three, right? Not, say, Five?)

jcm
The Ex-Engineer - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to johncoxmysteriously: Good guess but not the one I'm after. Also, I did mean the Three Sisters.
prog99 on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:

Lewis Carroll?
The Ex-Engineer - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Mike_Watson_99: Well done and over to you...

Beinn Bhan is home to to the classic Bonnington & Patey grade IV route March Hare's Gully plus the more recent Mad Hatter's Gully.

The East Face of Gearr Aonach (middle of the 3 sisters) in Glencoe is home to the classic VDiff The Wade plus Jabberwock VS & Mome Rath Route VDiff

Harmers Wood in Cheshire has numerous Alice in Wonderland themed routes.


Goucho on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

Probably an easy one, but which author links Dinas Mot, Clogwyn y Ddysgl & Chee Dale?
johncoxmysteriously - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Goucho:

I'm going to try Tolkein - Gollum and the Black Gates, though I'm not there yet with Chee Dale.

jcm
Goucho on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:

Sorry, but no.
David Lanceley - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Goucho:

Arthur Millar?

John2 - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to David Lanceley:

I was thinking Henry Miller.
David Lanceley - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to John2:

Doh.... Henry of course
Goucho on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to John2:

Correct

Sexus, Plexus & Nexus on Dinas Mot, which are the 3 books in the trilogy making up The Rosy Crucifixion (Clogwyn y Ddiysgl) and then there is Tropic of Cancer in Chee Dale.
Goucho on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

OK last one before it's time for slippers and Oveltine.

And this should be a doddle for all of those who were climbing before the internet.

What connects the ex Editors of Mountain & Crags Magazine, and John Allen?
John2 - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Goucho:

Bugger off, it's my turn.
John2 - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to Goucho:

What connects St Govan's, Trowbarrow and Robin Hood Quarries?
jon on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to John2:

Al Evans!
John2 - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to jon:

Good lord, have they opened this quiz to oiks? I was looking for a literary connection.
jon on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to John2:
I expect Al's written some stuff in the past... or was it Dostoyevsky
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John2 - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to jon:

You would probably find the answer in the Radcliffe Camera.
jon on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to John2:

Ah, that's off limits to oiks.
John2 - on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to jon:

Sorry, I missed the Dostoyevsky bit. Quite correct - Brothers Karamazov or Crime and Punishment at St Govan's , The Idiot at Trowbarrow, Crime and Punishment at Robin Hood Quarries. Over to you.
jcw on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to John2:

Wrong library?
jon on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to John2:

Haven't got the time right now so here's Mr Engineer's (Ex) last question again:

> What connects the ex Editors of Mountain & Crags Magazine, and John Allen?
prog99 on 14 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

Actually I thought it was my turn :)

Back from the pub so best I can come up with is -
Which Scottish extremes name is derived from a hebrew word?
The Ex-Engineer - on 15 Mar 2014
Groucho's question - What connects the ex Editors of Mountain (Ken Wilson?) & Crags Magazine (Geoff Birtles?), and John Allen? has me completely stumped.

But I guess Shibboleth is the answer to Mike's question as to which Scottish Extreme comes from Hebrew...
The Ex-Engineer - on 15 Mar 2014
Not sure whether it is my turn again, but here is another one to keep people thinking...

Take the number of degrees North, multiply it by how many fingers exercise, subtract the total number of pebbles on the slab and finally subtract the steps in the clouds.

With that answer as a clue, which classic English Font7A+/V7 boulder problem are you climbing?
prog99 on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> But I guess Shibboleth is the answer to Mike's question as to which Scottish Extreme comes from Hebrew...
Yes, easy really but I now know what a Shibboleth is.
davidalcock - on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Are we allowing for magnetic north? (Still trying to think of a worthy question).
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Al Evans on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> Not sure whether it is my turn again, but here is another one to keep people thinking...

> Take the number of degrees North, multiply it by how many fingers exercise, subtract the total number of pebbles on the slab and finally subtract the steps in the clouds.

> With that answer as a clue, which classic English Font7A+/V7 boulder problem are you climbing?

I got the number, but I don't know any classic English Font 7A+/V7 boulder problems.
The Ex-Engineer - on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to Al Evans:
> I got the number, but I don't know any classic English Font 7A+/V7 boulder problems.

The boulder problem is named after a well-known novel, which is the first in a series.
The Ex-Engineer - on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to davidalcock:
> Are we allowing for magnetic north? (Still trying to think of a worthy question).

Hint, the clues refer to the names of various routes with numbers in them...
Goucho on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

10 Degrees North, Five Finger Exercise, 3PS, One Step - I get 46, but struggling for the route.
The Ex-Engineer - on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to Goucho: You need to recount pebbles...

Goucho on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy at Kyloe?

However I'm struggling to get 42 - which I presume is the number?
Goucho on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> Groucho's question - What connects the ex Editors of Mountain (Ken Wilson?) & Crags Magazine (Geoff Birtles?), and John Allen? has me completely stumped.

When John Allen freed Great Wall on Cloggy, Wilson reported it in Mountain under the headline - "Great Wall goes free to chalk men".

In the next edition of Crags, Birtles reported it with the riposte - "Great Wall does not go free to talk men"

I think it was about this time Birtles (or possibly Tim Lewis) turned Wilson's name into the acronym - Ken = Knows Every Name :-)
Ian Parsons - on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to Goucho:


> However I'm struggling to get 42 - which I presume is the number?

Knock off Four Pebble Slab as well?
Goucho on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to Ian Parsons:

Sneaky :-)
The Ex-Engineer - on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to Ian and Goucho: You've got there between you. Another question required...

Ian Parsons - on 15 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Not me, guv; I've never heard of Hitchhiker's Guide - apart from the book, obviously. And while fully acquainted with the significance of the number 42, my brain wasn't in a sufficiently lateral mode to have made the connection.

Over to Goucho, I think!
The Ex-Engineer - on 16 Mar 2014
In reply to Ian Parsons:
Just had a long car journey so have come up with another few questions in the meantime the people can ponder over....

1) Who links E5s at Scafell Crag, Mother Carey's Kitchen, Sea Walls at Avon and Gull Rock (Marsland) in Cornwall. They are also more obviously linked with a well-known Arthur Dolphin route.

2) What links Hard Rock routes in Cornwall and on Creag an Dubh Loch, a popular route on Clogwyn y Ddysgyl, a Classic Rock route on Tryfan and an E5 on the North Yorks Moors?

3) Who links a Cloggy E6, a Neil Gresham modern mixed line in Glencoe and the direct finish to a route on Dovestone Tor

4) Who links a classic E2 at Trowbarrow, a Roaches Lower Tier E3 and a Scottish Island route in Classic Rock.

5) Who links a South West Hard Rock tick, a Boulder Ruckle HVS and impressive f8a DWS route in Pembrokeshire. As an additional clue, they also have an eponymous buttress at one of Scotland's largest sport climbing destinations.
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TRip - on 16 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:
> 1) Who links E5s at Scafell Crag, Mother Carey's Kitchen, Sea Walls at Avon and Gull Rock (Marsland) in Cornwall. They are also more obviously linked with a well-known Arthur Dolphin route.

I think the answer is Kipling. Original Sin on Scafell and the Dolphin route is Kipling Groove. Not sure of the other routes though. Bare Necessitates is the route at Gull Rock so it is definitely Kipling.

> 3) Who links a Cloggy E6, a Neil Gresham modern mixed line in Glencoe and the direct finish to a route on Dovestone Tor

A Midsummer Night's Dream and the Tempest are both Shakespeare plays. Not sure what the Dovestone tor direct finish is.

> 4) Who links a classic E2 at Trowbarrow, a Roaches Lower Tier E3 and a Scottish Island route in Classic Rock.

Cracked Actor, Labyrinth and Hunk Dory. David Bowie.
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In reply to TRip:


> A Midsummer Night's Dream and the Tempest are both Shakespeare plays. Not sure what the Dovestone tor direct finish is.

The Shylock Finish to Route 1,


Chris
The Ex-Engineer - on 16 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip: Superb effort! 3 down, 2 left.

FWIW 'Shere Khan' was the one I was thinking of on Scafell. 'Tiger Tiger' at Mother Carey's and and 'Just So' at Avon.



TRip - on 16 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> Superb effort! 3 down, 2 left.

> FWIW 'Shere Khan' was the one I was thinking of on Scafell.

Ha! Shere Khan isn't on Scafell Crag. It's on the East Buttress.
The Ex-Engineer - on 16 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip: Damn! I knew it was on 'Scafell' but for some unknown reason it was the only one I didn't double check.

Any luck with the other two?

johncoxmysteriously - on 16 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Tiger Tiger is more Blake than Kipling, I'd have thought?!

jcm
Al Evans on 17 Mar 2014
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:

Damn, I got number four but I don't post at night.
John you are definitely right.

"
The Tiger
William Blake

Tiger Tiger. burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye.
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies.
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand, dare seize the fire?"

etc
The Ex-Engineer - on 17 Mar 2014
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:
> Tiger Tiger is more Blake than Kipling, I'd have thought?!

Kipling took Blake's poem as inspiration for the third short story in the original Jungle Book - 'Tiger, Tiger'
Bob Moulton - on 17 Mar 2014
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:

That particular route name may well have come from a sci-fi book, Tiger! Tiger! by Alfred Bastow, which Pat recommended to me sometime in the 70s. If so I'm not sure what happened to the exclamation marks - could have been bad editing the first time it appeared in a guidebook! Pat's route Blue Jaunt on Lundy also came from one of his books. I agree that Bastow probably got the title from Blake.

Bob
Franco Cookson on 18 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Number two has really confused me. Look forward to seeing the answer.
Franco Cookson on 18 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

The only thing I could think of was the clergy? But you'd have to be meaning three screaming popes, which is E6?
The Ex-Engineer - on 18 Mar 2014
In reply to Franco Cookson: Definitely a N Yorks Moors E5 in the 2003 NE England guide...

What about question 5? It is probably more straight-forward.
kettlebell - on 20 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

>#2 Chess? (Grooved Arete with KNIGHT's move, KING rat,BISHOP's rib, GAMBIT climb - i dont know the E5 on NYM but do i get to ask a question now?
Grahame N - on 20 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

> What about question 5? It is probably more straight-forward.

The name's Bond ......... James Bond.

SW Hard Rock route - Moonraker.
Boulder Ruckle hvs - Thunderball.
Pembroke DWS - ?
Eponymous buttress - Bond Buttress, Glen Ogle.
dominic lee - on 22 Mar 2014
In reply to Grahame N: Pembroke Dws...Jaws .?

The Ex-Engineer - on 22 Mar 2014
In reply to kettlebell, Grahame N, Dominic: Well done. All solved now :-)

FWIW the E5 was Grand Master Flash http://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/c.php?i=7233

Anyway, it is now over to you (or the OP again) to come up what some other questions...

Grahame N - on 25 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

Okay, a test of arithmetic this time.

What number do you end up with if you start with:-

the number of 8000m peaks,
add a banned welsh VS route (FA Patrick & Bertlett 1963),
take away the no. of first winter ascents done by Andy Nisbet last winter,
add the Nevis gully climbed by Smith and Marshall on 7 Feb 1960,
add the no. of Munros on Skye, and
take away the number of fingers exercising at Cratcliffe?

No calculators allowed.
The Ex-Engineer - on 26 Mar 2014
In reply to Grahame N:
> Okay, a test of arithmetic this time.
> What number do you end up with if you start with:-

14 - the number of 8000m peaks,
66 (Route 66, Craig y Forwyn) add a banned welsh VS route (FA Patrick & Bertlett 1963),
-74 (5min in on http://davemacleod.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/andy-nisbet-film.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium... ) take away the no. of first winter ascents done by Andy Nisbet last winter ,
-3 (Minus Three Gully) add the Nevis gully climbed by Smith and Marshall on 7 Feb 1960,
12 - add the no. of Munros on Skye, and
-5 - take away the number of fingers exercising at Cratcliffe?

> No calculators allowed.

TEN
Grahame N - on 26 Mar 2014
In reply to The Ex-Engineer:

TEN is the correct answer. Glad we both got the same result, my arithmetic is not to good.
Your turn again.
TRip - on 27 Mar 2014
Here is a couple to get you thinking

Who was the first brition to climb the Eiger north wall in a day?

What is unique about the Extreme Rock essay on Left Wall?

There are two routes on Peak Limestone called John Peel. Why are they so named?

jon on 27 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

The seconds of both John Peel routes fell off. They were both named John.
TRip - on 27 Mar 2014
In reply to jon:

> The seconds of both John Peel routes fell off. They were both named John.

Well done.
jon on 27 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip:

Was Left Wall the only one written by a woman? Gill Price?
TRip - on 27 Mar 2014
In reply to jon:

Correct!
Michael Hood - on 27 Mar 2014
In reply to TRip: Can't answer your's, but here's a good pub quiz question...

By area (might also be the longest), what is the largest French glacier?

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