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Topic - A climbing what did you do at the weekend thread

Slightly in homage to Bob's now quite long running "biking what did you do at the weekend?" thread, it seems a shame that UKC doesn't have a climbing one! So how about it?

I'm newly arrived in Sheffield so have been managing to get out climbing regularly and have been enjoying bagging some classics that I've been reading about regularly on UKC for years! So this weekend:
Saturday, set off in heavy rain and low spirits to meet Tony in Cheedale. The rain sort of stopped as we were walking in, and we started seeing sunny patches raising morale. My kids greatly enjoyed the stepping stones through the river and the tunnels on the approach. Tony cruised a 6b on Max Wall for a warm up, I had vague thoughts of trying to lead it but actually found it really tough and slippy on a top rope so gave up on any thoughts of redpoint glory. My humiliating lack of performance was just amplified when looking down I realised that Andy Cave and Ben Moon were at the base of the crag chatting with the people on the next route. Being crap is always embarrassing, but being crap in front of your alpinism/sport climbing/literary heroes is worse. We then went to the Cornice for Tony to try his project, Bored of the Lies, and he got really close to sending it. I even had a go on top rope as he rested between goes and was proud to get to second bolt. :) Cheedale is beautiful and even though English inland limestone isn't really my thing, it was great watching people putting in huge efforts on the hard routes there. In the afternoon we went to Froggat and classic bagged until it started raining early evening. Favourite route was Broken Crack - much more my sort of thing. Bizarrely, I heard people speaking Finnish a couple of routes over - went to say hello only to find one of them was a chap I had sold a jacket to back in Helsinki about a month ago, before moving to the UK. Small world etc.

Sunday went to Baslow with the kids. Soloed a bunch of easier routes; my 8 year old had lots of fun top roping some of the slabby lines, then my 10 year old did his first ever trad lead (OK, I went up first and put the runners in) on Gully Wall; a depressing-sounding name but actually really good fun and despite being a Mod, climbs like a 'proper route'.
BnB - on 31 Aug 2014
In reply to TobyA:
My weekend started on Friday with a trip to the Lakes. All thoughts of proper climbing were banished by wave after wave of heavy showers sweeping over us, so we scrambled up Raven Crag in Threshwaite Cove. A short day on the hill was marked in true bumbly style by a trip to Ambleside to buy some offsets. Over the two glorious sunny days which followed I've experimented with arranging my expanded collection of wires in different coloured carabiner coordinated configurations so that I can grab that crucial brass no 1 when I'm pumped out of my mind on some slabby VDiff.

Did I actually climb at all. Err... no.
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coreybennett - on 31 Aug 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Went to almscliff on Sunday. I had a shit day for climbing.
Blue Straggler - on 31 Aug 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Went to Lawrencefield to do a half-day of easy stuff to get a friend back into climbing after a few years off. As she used to do mostly sport climbing, I thought she might benefit from some practice at removing trad gear on second, so I laced up one of those V Diff routes on Gingerbread Slab. Nailsbane maybe. 10 or 11 placements on a 10m route, possibly a record :-)
Then Nova (HS), The Last Wet Wednesday (a slightly underrated VS in Roadside Bay) and an ignoble retreat from Quantum Crack resulting in a dubious bit of ropework.
Then my 4-year-old nephew turned up and it was time for "clambering around on little boulders", which was fun.

The weather held, apart from some very light drizzle a few times.
Jon Stewart - on 31 Aug 2014
In reply to TobyA:
I went for a potter along Baslow this evening. Beautiful, breezy and with a definite atmosphere of the last day of summer. Climbed some cracking routes - all the same ones I always do, I suppose, but I never tire of stuff like Don's Mantel and Hair Conditioned Nightmare.
Post edited at 22:28
In reply to Jon Stewart:

We were rather taken by the Baslow cows. I'll be going back sometime soon, I did the first half (hard half?) or Renaissance, got to the breaks but found it disappointingly slopey, so wimped out traversing it right to the gully rather than going up to the top. I found it odd that this problem with a V grade is actually higher than all the routes either side of it!
Jon Stewart - on 31 Aug 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Is Renaissance the lovely HVS slab? There are two lines on it, both 5b, and pure grit micro-perfection. Yes, the top breaks are slopey, but that's what it's about!

There is no logic to the allocation of route/boulder grades in any book I've come across. The BMC have had a good go, with sometimes using both with a 'dominant and recessive' scheme to give more of a flavour of what to expect. Might be a bit heath robinson, but in some places it works.
Joak - on 31 Aug 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Climbed six routes at a very quiet sunny Hawkcraig on the Firth of Forth on Saturday.
paul__in_sheffield - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

> We were rather taken by the Baslow cows. I'll be going back sometime soon, I did the first half (hard half?) or Renaissance, got to the breaks but found it disappointingly slopey, so wimped out traversing it right to the gully rather than going up to the top. I found it odd that this problem with a V grade is actually higher than all the routes either side of it!

Embrace the slopyness Toby, it's the epitome of grit, and not as insecure as it looks. Did you look at the problems on the 'Walnut Whip' at Baslow? Worth a look, and easier to find when the undergrowth starts to die back.
Skyfall - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Saturday saw me flowing (er, probably appearing more like battling) up the layback crack on the Voie Bleue at Les Cheserys in the Aig Rouge. Super route; just a shame the ropes decided to jam in every available feature on the ab off.
MFB - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:
bit of a literary theme in this weekends activities

shamed by the Pavey Ark article in Climber,I convinced my mate to venture up the ghyll late on Saturday afternoon. Ignoring the guides exhortation to 'warm up first' my good friend set up off the uncompromisingly steep wall of 'Aardvark' E1 5c and fought his way through the difficult crux with a string of invective - if only he had followed the guide's advice.

https://www.facebook.com/NTLakescampsites/photos/a.211203592234751.54016.211202675568176/82035245465...

My turn, oh no, the pies, so friendly and attractive in Gregg's now turned nasty. I have recently been reading Kirkpatrick's books and inspired by his love of hanging off stuff I cunningly aided my way around the difficulties to access the lovely, but poorly protected finishing slab. On reaching the belay my excellent companion suggested a horizontal abseil to the foot of my route 'Golden Slipper' there followed half an hour of sheer terror while suicidal sheep, steep wet grass and a unreasonably competent/confident partner pushed me close to tears. Eventually I flopped shaking onto the belay below the crux pitch of the 'Slipper' but this looked better, I'd been here before, great bubbly rock, slabby, reasonably protected climbing, off we go, climbing the steepening crack, wiggle a few nuts in, sideways in the well used slots, locate the best nobbles for hands and feet, reach the wall and pull out right to a cam slot, you're up. Relaxing on the belay.

https://www.facebook.com/NTLakescampsites/photos/a.211203592234751.54016.211202675568176/82062231462...

Descend - travese left to the rap station, ropes black with algae and minging but there's 8 of them, something will be fine, rap to the rake and descend gingerly to the tarn in the half light - head torch for the last stretch through trees to car park, I need tea and ibroprofen, brilliant
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omerta on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Great idea, Toby!

I went to Redpoint in Birmingham and tried out some climbing after getting the all-clear from my physio and surgeon following a second shoulder operation this spring. No grade-hunting for me, just some good, pain-free fun with an excellent chum to get my muscle memory back. My shoulder held up very well, but my fingers were broken after just a couple of hours!
caradoc - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA: I watched lots of football on telly.

cb294 - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Look at some wet sandstone slabs in the rain. Actually found a route I fancy should it stop raining in the Elbe sandstone.

CB
Ben Watts - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Subliminal with the wife yesterday cruising through the Severes. A very enjoyable afternoon in great weather.
pog100 - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

lovely 'last day of summer' at Stanage yesteday, along with quite a lot of other people. Everyone was in a good mood though, so the babble wasn't too wearing. Just did some relaxing easy stuff all day.
AdrianC - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA: I went ski touring - does that count? Some very nice snow out there & the steep stuff is on!

In reply to paul__in_sheffield:

> Embrace the slopyness Toby, it's the epitome of grit, and not as insecure as it looks.

:-) I find insecurity comes and goes with availability of gear, although of course roping up for a V1 would be to miss the point I suppose! I think the route to it's left is graded HVS 5b, so perhaps I should try that one with a few micro cams to get something psychological in the break before trying the top bit. Renaissance will have to wait for a day I'm feeling braver, have a spotter and don't have my kids asking me random questions as I wobble about on the crux looking at a distant mat through my feet.
In reply to AdrianC:

> I went ski touring - does that count? Some very nice snow out there & the steep stuff is on!

Yes, I think that is fine for the hemispherically challenged! Is it too late for ice climbing down there? I suppose it is the start of spring for you lot?
In reply to MFB:

MFB - as it appears from the pics that you are the National Trust Langdale Campsite, can I ask - does being an NT member mean anything for NT campsites? I suppose free camping is too much to expect? We joined as a family when we moved to the UK this summer and I'm doing my best to balance out the membership fee by saving on parking fees around the Peak District (as well dragging slightly bored kids around various heritage buildings - they have enjoyed the rope swings and the like though!) but want to do a Lake visit this autumn.
AdrianC - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA: It's been cold and clear so I reckon the waterfall ice will still be there but yeah - it's getting a tad late for that. Mountain routes are in good fettle apparently, am hoping to swing the tools at the weekend if the planets align. More skiing failing that. Ho hum...

Offwidth - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

The grade logic is as follows: Renaissance has no sensible gear until the climbing difficulty eases noticably (unlike the protectable shorter easier routes either side); the 5b crux is at about 3/4m and the landing is easy to mat so its usually climbed as a solo, often these days above mats, so a boulder problem grade with a route grade in brackets (to keep the trad heads happy) seemed the best bet.

As for the original question: lazy holiday post lunch starts then spent the afternoons exploring some bits of Chair Ladder and Sennen, bimbling around on good stuff from VD to HS...everything has been really good (the only route we were a bit underwhelmed by was Pegasus as the start crack was wet (we went round) the overhang a bit artifical and the mantel easier than expected and the rest was easier than most of the VDs). Finished Sunday with a reprevive of Demo route, nearly 20 years after our previous ascent.
irish paul - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I had a great weekend in Pembroke going after those routes you always seem to put on the list to "come back to one day" and rarely manage to. Greased off Mother Night at Mother Scareys having nipped in before the tide cut us off which was a bit worrisome, belayed Sarah on Stargate and Test Case and finally climbed Tangerine Dream which is just a little piece of perfection!

Slightly regretted my decision to not bring suncream mind....
Benstar on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I lead my first vs 4c. Mitre crack at aldery cliff. Really nice zig zagging crack.
Skyfall - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to Benstar:

Did it still have a bat inside the crack?
mattrm - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Right Hand Route at Wintours Leap. Nice easy HS with nice views from the belays, lovely weather and a few nice moves on the middle two pitches.
Blue Straggler - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to Blue Straggler:



> an ignoble retreat from Quantum Crack resulting in a dubious bit of ropework.

Ta daah

http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=244953
Offwidth - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to Blue Straggler:

I'm amazed you are still leading grit on one end of the rope. Going off both ends cuts the need for carrying two ropes and allows all the benefits of leading on two,including making ropework much easier for the improptu escape.
Blue Straggler - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to Offwidth:
> I'm amazed you are still leading grit on one end of the rope.

Really? I've kind of 'been there, done that' with a "folded" half rope (indeed the first ropes I owned were a pair of half ropes and I often just took one to the grit). I eventually got annoyed with the same colour thing ("slack on blue....no the OTHER blue!" etc :-) )
Mostly climb on a single unless I have a meandering route in mind.

Also some less experienced seconds can't handle two ropes very well, and I was out on Saturday with a less experienced one. I avoid "folding" a single, again for handling reasons.

This pic was a one-off, this doesn't happen regularly! :-)
Post edited at 12:36
In reply to TobyA:
Some easy Soloing at Birchen Sat evening before a smug running away just before the rain come down.
Got my ass handed to me by a VS at Higgar Tor the very short and steep Sickle Overhang. Broke my seconds nail. Ran away to some pleasant bouldering/soloing at Stanage apparent North.
Post edited at 12:32
In reply to freemanTom (Guildford MC):

> Broke my seconds nail.

Presumably the nine-inch type used for some terrifying type of an excuse for a runner like on Braille Trail? :-) It did get soggy suprisingly quickly on Saturday evening didn't it. I finishing was belaying at the top of Janker's Crack watching a brave second battling her way up Chequers Buttress which was getting slippier faster than she could move up it!
MFB - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

just work there Toby but as I'm lucky enough to get to some great spots often at times when no one else is about much I try to post the odd pic

NT membership - camping doesn't attract a members discount, unfortunately, so same price for all however you quickly recoup the cost of membership with parking in Lakes or on the other hand you can bask in warm glow of having supported NT in it's wide ranging conservation work.

Email if you want to sort out some camping etc or just turn up

cheers John 015394 37668
BnB - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to freemanTom (Guildford MC):


> Got my ass handed to me by a VS at Higgar Tor the very short and steep Sickle Overhang. Broke my seconds nail. Ran away to some pleasant bouldering/soloing at Stanage apparent North.

Did you try the neighbouring Jupiter's Arete? Nails at VS 4c, which it isn't.
In reply to TobyA:

I had half arranged to meet a team at Stanage Popular on Sunday but couldn't believe the number of vehicles there when I arrived. Did a four mile tour on the north end of the crag, photoing a few bit and pieces I had previously missed, for the new Eastern Grit,

Perfect day: http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=245034


Chris
Mark Kemball - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to Chris Craggs:

Great pic Chris. Did you fiddle with the colours at all? I'm colour blind and don't see the heather as readily as the rest of my family for instance, but in your pic the colours really 'pop'. Looking forward to getting the chance to climb at the top end of Stanage, as I've not been up there before. I've been enjoying using your guidebooks to!
In reply to TobyA:

> Great pic Chris. Did you fiddle with the colours at all? I'm colour blind and don't see the heather as readily as the rest of my family for instance, but in your pic the colours really 'pop'. Looking forward to getting the chance to climb at the top end of Stanage, as I've not been up there before. I've been enjoying using your guidebooks to!

Fiddly? Me? Never! OK just a bit.

It was nice and quiet up there, only a couple of teams at High Neb and a couple more at End Slab - the Popular End was rammed.

Glad the books are up to the task - hope they aren't missing too many routes?


Chris
JimboWizbo - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Giant's Crawl on Dow Crag, nice afternoon out
Greenbanks - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to JimboWizbo:

Was it wet? Going up to Dow hopefully this Wed/Thurs
PontiusPirate on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Well, didn't get anything done on Saturday due to being distinctly not with it after a large dose of anti-histamines the night before, turned out to be a nice day Yorkshire way :-/
Sunday was much more successful with a trip to the deeply esoteric Worlow Quarry for some obscure quarried grit steepness - bagged another E1 (though this one required a clean beforehand) though it was a bit of a path and the grade would probably be more appropriate for the HVS I had lead earlier that day. Some decent climbing if you don't mind the brooding atmosphere, occasional interruptions by lost Range rover owners (!) and cleaning the harder routes beforehand.

I also drink drank at least 20 cups of tea - that is a sign of a successful weekend.

PP.
jon on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Toby, this is a great thread you've started. So much better than those interminable 'your 500 favourite vs's on grit' lists. Sadly I can't add to it being too tired to climb at the WE (due to climbing all week!) Just thought you should know.
Ann S on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Saturday I decided to change the habit of a lifetime and believe the BBC weather forecast for rain clearing out of the western lakes by 11.00am which it did. So had a great day on Wallobarrow introducing a young mate to his first multipitch. At the moment my chances to get out climbing are on a par with my chances of getting out of a straight jacket while buried up to the neck in concrete, so I value any chance I get. Apologies to the couple who followed us as we took our time.

TRip - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to jon:

> Toby, this is a great thread you've started. So much better than those interminable 'your 500 favourite vs's on grit' lists. Sadly I can't add to it being too tired to climb at the WE (due to climbing all week!) Just thought you should know.

Indeed.

I did Dreadnought at Berryhead on Saturday which was as brilliant as I'd hoped it would be. On Sunday I set off up Preter before deciding that it was desperate and switching to Malbogies which was a total sandbag. Then we did M1.
JimboWizbo - on 01 Sep 2014
In reply to Greenbanks:

A couple of puddles on the ledges but the climbing was dry. A party was on Eliminate A, so yeah, pretty OK conditions
Benstar on 02 Sep 2014
In reply to Skyfall:

Yep the bat was still there about halfway up.
Greenbanks - on 02 Sep 2014
In reply to JimboWizbo:

Thanks - looking good for later this week then.
Em66 - on 02 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

A Lakeland revival trip up to eagle crag Borrowdale to do Faulkners Crack on Saturday followed by my first girdle traverse on Sunday on White ghyll. Despite there being about 10 people on white ghyll we only spent about 20 mins waiting to follow a couple on one pitch of white ghyll wall and shared a belay with two more people on a ledge for Gordian knott as they were going up the route above us and we went down the pitch they had just done. We ended up taking about 5h to do the 12 pitch route which felt like quite the adventure!
iain miller - on 02 Sep 2014
stuartR - on 02 Sep 2014


Did hope on idwal slabs on Saturday just before the rain came in
coreybennett - on 02 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Solo'd an E7 today, if that counts as a weekend thing haha
MFB - on 02 Sep 2014
In reply to coreybennett:

sorry Corey but your ascent does not count, the thread title is quite clear, only climbs completed at the weekend are valid.
Michael Gordon - on 02 Sep 2014
In reply to coreybennett:

you'll have to do it again
In reply to TobyA:

Right, it's sunday and it's dark - so what did you do climbing-wise this weekend?

Not strictly at the weekend, but last thursday - last day before my course began - I cycled from Sheffield to Birchen and visited it for the first time. Soloed 13 easy routes, then cycled back in time to get the kids from school. Saturday I was meeting Tony for another visit to Cheedale - the rain was bucketing down as I left Sheffield though. We changed plans and met at a cafe in Hathersage instead, drank tea and ate cake watching the rain fall. Tony did his shopping then, putting it off no longer, we went down to Cheedale for Tony to try his project on the Cornice. The rock was dry but unfortunately he didn't quite send it after giving it a couple of good goes. Next time! Mid afternoon the rains weakened a bit and we trying to decide on venue #2. We managed to drive back into the rain going up to Horseshoe, which all looked dank and soggy. A pint was the next plan then a speculative walk back up to Birchens as the rain had sort-of stopped. It was all a bit green and damp but I did Victory Crack which is jammy enough to feel secure. Tony next did Orpheus Wall after one fall. I found it utterly desperate seconding and had to cheat. We finished by me leading Nelson Nemesis in a bit of setting sun - the only sun we saw all day! Not too bad a day considering the dreich conditions. Today I managed to boulder a few problems at the Hurkling Stone up on the Derwent moors during a family hike.

And everyone else?
Cheese Monkey - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I started one a few months ago but it died. Just shows how many actual climbers are on UKC...

Spent last week in Alps, climbed Monch, Allalinhorn, Feechopf and Alphubel plus a bit of sport multipitch. Rather good week!
luke glaister - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:
I did my first sea cliff e1. The arrow at St Govan's. my best route to date. I'm just breaking the hvs grade so was well pleased to top out on this. I felt high on weed when I sat down at the top after. Happy days.
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deacondeacon - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Headed to Wilton at 1pm after work but as we drove through Glossop realised that the weather gods had been telling fibs.
Ended up going to Idwal Slabs instead where I climbed some E1 at the top of the slab and mate did one of the suicide wall routes.
Not very often the weather in North Wales saves the day :)
LakesWinter on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Got Obscenity done at Burbage and belayed my mate on his first VS today.
MFB - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:


Thursday - spat off seconding Titus Groan in white ghyll, its probably a bit harder than E1
Friday - middlefell butress
Saturday - back to white ghyll for Slabs route 1
Sunday - gentle early bike to stoolend with youngest, middlefell butress, bike to blea tarn oldest boy, paddle low wray to ambleside with 7 kids to celebrate oldest daughters birthday
BnB - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Hosted Mum's birthday party Saturday so spent the day preparing for that. Today at Crookrise in stunning sunshine with the climbing club. Was belayed throughout by two beginners (one tailing the other) on several VSs, which I find hard enough already without two youngsters diligently pulling hard on the lead rope so I can't make the moves... That's my excuse anyway ;-)

PS Crookrise is ace. Probably the best range of easy to middle grade routes on Yorkshire grit with a cracking view.
wilkie14c - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to deacondeacon:

We arrived at Wilton at 1pm and it was glorious. After not even tying on for nearly a year I got a few routes in and rekindled that fire. My harness seems to have shrunk though ;-)
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Banana Cockroach - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Brilliant day at Trowbarrow. Started climbing 3 years ago and after loads of wall work plenty of outdoor top roping and some challenging sport at Australia Quarry finally lead my first decent length single pitch route. It was a glorious late summer day with beautiful sunshine in sheltered Trowbarrow. I scrambled up twentieth century schizoid man on Assagai the Wall. Easy climbing but bloody good fun. Lovely view from the top. Joyous day. Up and onwards. N. B. Was seconded by my 13 year old son who was completely underwhelmed and wants to climb harder. Vin
PontiusPirate on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Yesterday bailed from a very wet Wilton to a very dry and sunny Lakes (the world has gone mad!)
Finally got Pluto lead at Raven, Langdale while my mate put in a sterling onsight led of the (hard?) E4 Armalite, which I surprised myself by seconding cleaning and without too much effort.
Had another go at Wilton today, hampered by me going down with a cold or something: lead Cameo again, and a very worhtwhile recently recleaned and excavated E1 called Deodar (sp?) whilst my mate had a go at various hard things culminating in Master Spy, an E4 a full order of magnitude hard than the previous days.
An excellent couple of days: it's great to be out with someone with so much psyche and climbing considerably harder than me - very inspiring.

PP.
Blue Straggler - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I climbed vertically up 35m of suspended rope using just my arms.

I was underwater at the time, which made it easier. Spiced it up by not having any breathing apparatus though ;-)
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Impressive, but not climbing so doesn't count. You're fired. ;-)
Blue Straggler - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I had a snapgate!
Dave Williams - on 07 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Yet another route-checking couple of days in the Rhinogydd for the new guide, an all-too-common pattern for me over the past 9 months. Consequently, now on first name terms with quite a few of the local farmers. Continue to be very impressed by the skill and confidence of the first ascentionists who have soloed totally unprotected E4s and E5s above body-scything landings.

Eleven routes climbed and checked up to E4 on two separate crags; only 500 or so more to go! Also climbed 4 new routes and discovered an absolutely fantastic little sandbag in Cwm Nantcol - which has (fortunately) now been upgraded from the FA grade of Severe to a rather well-deserved E1 5b!!
Ramblin dave - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Really nice day out at Bamford. Did Brown's Crack but failed at Samson's Delight. I'm beginning to develop a theory if something's less than ten meters and graded harder than VDiff then it's probably a sandbag.
BnB - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to Ramblin dave:

Samson's Delight was an early HS for me and my first taste of jamming. I made it, but only just, and both seconds fell clean off. It's not really a sandbag. Just a bitch of a climb.
DubyaJamesDubya - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Can I post about the weekend before this just gone? (here goes)

Long weekend in Cornwall. Finally got Astral Stroll done after having it on the 'tick list' for years. The sea had a big swell going and it even threatened to rain at one point but got it done. Felt pretty tough for the grade and a big chunk of the initial traverse has fallen off (but it didn't affect the high level approach).
deacondeacon - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to wilkie14c:

Was this on the Saturday or Sunday? Good to here you're back on the rock again :)
Trangia - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Bowles Rocks yesterday - beautiful weather, lovely dry rock and very few climbers there!

Six Foot 4c
Larchant 5a
Hennessy Heights 5b
Dival's Diversion 5b
Devaluation 5b

Cream tea at Ahburnham Place Orangery on way home!
francois - on 08 Sep 2014
I finally managed to get through the crux of Rainbow Bridge at Berry Head. It really is an amazing route with so many great sections of climbing. So great weekend all in all.

Offwidth - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to BnB:
Too right. I'd go as far as to say there are no sandbags left on any popular eastern edge crags below VS (in the BMC guides unless a route has changed recently: holds or gear placements have blown) as we climbed them all and got rid of them (there are not many in Rockfax either). By that I mean routes obviously more than a grade out.

People will find some routes hard but that probably partly because they are maybe top of the grade and/or because we all have different skill sets compared to a nominal average climber and/or even the best graders cant pin things too accurately iside a particlar grade or at a border. We may have also missed some reachy routes that really needed a health warning as some routes didnt get ticked by our shorter checkers. Back to the Bamford routes in question: Samson's Delight is at 4c more technical than BC and being off -balance (yet less sustained) is a very different style (BC spanks those who cant jam).

Incidently forgot to mention we had a look at Terriers Tooth last week its a real mess as the bottom 15m or so of the route has sheared off on a slab line above the tidal ledges. We met a party trying to gain the unaffected section and its not trivial. A smaller rockfall further left has removed the start of Mermaid.
Post edited at 09:36
Ramblin dave - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to Offwidth:

> Too right. I'd go as far as to say there are no sandbags left on any popular eastern edge crags below VS (in BMC) as we climbed them all and got rid of them (there are not many in Rockfax either). People will find some routes hard but that probably partly because they are top of the grade and because we all have different skill sets compared to a nominal average climber.

Yeah, it's probably that. I found Brown's Crack relatively steady and thought Samson's Delight the living end. I've also still got the mental scars from Calcutta Crack at the Roaches, hence my suspicions about six metre sandbags - I always imagine a hypothetical JCM saying something like "how can it be HS? It's only six metres, you could jump off it..."
pog100 - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

A day ticking easy bolted limestone in Yorkshire. High Stony, great venue but looks like it is getting very popular so good to get in early maybe..
Offwidth - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to Ramblin dave:

Western edges stuff is graded a significant fraction of a grade harder. We try and keep our personal view seperate on Offwidth and we think Calcutta Crack is HS 4b. JCM was a mid extreme leader and a bit of an iconoclast on the grading of sandbags (statements such as 'that HVS is way to hard to be E1' !) so not trustworthy in the slightest on the grading of such routes but often cuttingly funny.
The Pylon King on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to PontiusPirate:



> An excellent couple of days: it's great to be out with someone with so much psyche and climbing considerably harder than me - very inspiring.

Even though he wears tights and has an appalling taste in music?


In reply to Offwidth:

> I'd go as far as to say there are no sandbags left on any popular eastern edge crags below VS

What's the method (trick?) for Orpheus wall then? I know that's not below VS, but it obviously a well know and loved route. I've now seen some pics of people getting their whole knee and lower leg onto the jugs which I didn't try - I had a heel/toe cam in - so might need to give that a go next time. But I've onsighted plenty of 5b routes and couldn't second it cleanly, and my friend who got spat off it on his onsight attempt has climbed 7c this year; so I can't imagine Orpheus is a particularly easy 5c move. Giving it HVS seems even odder in that light but grit grades seem a bit odd to me still.
Ramblin dave - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to Offwidth:

Agree with you on the Western edges.

The other part of my comment wasn't really specific to JCM - that was just thinking back to the "just jump off Valkyrie" conversation - so much as the possibility that people are less willing to upgrade short routes, regardless of the actual technical difficulty, because they're a bit embarrassed to be putting on a trad rack for something that size anyway.

Probably I'm just overgeneralizing from two or three examples.
climbingpixie - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Had a late start and wandered up to Burnt Crag on Saturday. My partner led Shifter and I fell off it seconding. Brilliant route but felt quite tough. Didn't lead anything as the E2 looked nails (as did the rest of the E3s) and the HVS looked disgusting.

Yesterday we made a bad decision to go to Chapel Head. It was far too hot and I ripped a tip open trying Super Dupont and bled everywhere, so that ended my climbing for the day.
Just Tintin - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Seconded Regent Street. What a route! Will definitely be easier on lead as placing gear definitely easier than getting out bomber nuts :o)
smokeyj - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

took a recent swedish aquaintance to borrowdale for a van trip.....took her up some of the classics as her first introduction to rock. The more unconventional style of strapping her down with a gri-gri on multipitch routes seemed to work ok ;)
jonnyblindsign - on 08 Sep 2014
I was in Prague over the weekend, so had a drive over to Petrohrad for some bouldering on the Saturday. It is a lovely setting, great looking boulders in the forrest and we seemed to have the place completely to ourselves. I found the climbing quite fustrating and my rib injury was playing up a bit - we probably needed to spend longer there to get used to the style. Would like to go back again at some point.
In reply to TobyA:

Did Mousetrap Saturday, what an outrageous climbing canvas, Not likely to top that any time soon. Was rather less adventurous Sunday.
wilkie14c - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to deacondeacon:

Sat was rained off so if you was talking about sat then you did right by not bothering. Sunday was great though
Offwidth - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:
Spoiler alert for OW: 'kneebar' on ledge, pull up into undercuts and udge up further until you can reach (using friction on trailing leg) and when you know how it all feels more 5b than 5c. You can also semi-dyno at 5c but I'd rather people avoid this as the cam placements are trashed already and don't need extra hammer. If a leader is not good at trick technical routes at the top of the HVS grade its maybe best to stay away until they get better.
Post edited at 13:39
In reply to Offwidth:

> If a leader is not good at trick technical routes at the top of the HVS grade its maybe best to stay away until they get better.

People try to onsight routes at the grade they are given in the guidebook I suppose. You can't really tell people not to try climbing certain routes which are within their normal capabilities.
ashtond6 - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Did some more yosemite training with the gf, standard millstone crack circuit... Supra, Plexity, detour this week.

I must add, detour is a massively underrated route!
Benstar on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Had an enjoyable Sat climbing overlapping pinnacle rib on Tryfan. Sun came out just as we started climbing. Happy days
Offwidth - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:
You are missing my point. The cam placements on Orpheus Wall are pretty trashed so it needs some tlc. I have no real issues with people trying hard and falling on non-damaged routes. Same as my complaint about Topsail earlier. The BMC guide specifically warns about pushing so hard a fall is likely on the damaged placements on these routes.
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DWS gibraltar - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I have spent the summer deep water soloing in Gibraltar perfect!
In reply to Offwidth:

I'm not missing the point, I'm saying some people just turn up at a cliff and try routes based on the info in the guide. The rockfax also notes that the placements are wearing, although they looked ok to us (two secure yellows IIRC) and clearly worked for my friend when he did come off.
hazeysunshine - on 08 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Fab sunny weekend in the Lakes, led my second HVS of the century - Gazebo on Castle Rock (the first of the century was Rosebud in June at Zennor). Before that my last HVS lead was in 1987.

It's been a good climbing year for me - not injured, good weather coinciding with climbing trips, enthusiastic climbing partners - all good!
Offwidth - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Then I'm dissapoined in you. If you knew the climb you would know how fast those cam slots have eroded. It isnt a safety issue on OW as cams have gouged a rounded profile reasonably deep in the break, its an issue of respect for the rock over yet another marginal tick.
The Ivanator - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to hazeysunshine:

Sounds good and Gazebo is one I'd like to do next time I'm in the Lakes. My partner for North Wales fell through (due to a speed education course!), but a late appeal for partners bore fruit and I ended up heading to Gower.
Got on Sport stuff near Southgate on the Saturday, followed by a fantastic swim in the sea. Bit of pub time then sneaky wildcamp in a beautiful secluded location (pitched late and broke camp early). In the morning headed to the new Sports stuff on Mermaid Wall at Rhossili. Brilliant mid grade routes straight off the golden sand. Got a bit too involved in the climbing and ended up having to wade out of the cove in waist deep water - entertaining! ...sport climbing felt adventurous for a change.
Thanks to all those that have recently equipped this area, top work. Once a few of the barnacles and mussels have gone from the starts there will be a host of multi star classics in the F4 - F6b+ range, star worthy in their current state, but will improve with traffic - get down there!
jon on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to Offwidth:
> Then I'm dissapoined in you. If you knew the climb you would know how fast those cam slots have eroded. It isnt a safety issue on OW as cams have gouged a rounded profile reasonably deep in the break, its an issue of respect for the rock over yet another marginal tick.

So what's the answer? Don't climb it?
Offwidth - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to jon:
Solo it. Boulder it. Headpoint it. TR it. Get beta for the sake of the rock. Bear in mind if you intend to try and onsight it that the moves are not obvious and the damage is serious and so consider that in your choice, and if in doubt about your ability to unlock weird bouldery grit 5c consider leaving it until you have improved. If you assessed honestly and still fell maybe back off as the very worst damage is done by those falling again and again or worst still moving around on the cams and grinding away at the rock whilst trying to dog it. There are rare occasions when the cumulative impact of the trad UK lead on a mid grade route is the most damaging game to play and this is one.
Post edited at 11:33
In reply to TobyA:

Sunday Stanage - thronged.

Monday (not technically the weekend of course) Bamford - deserted

http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.html?id=245408


Chris
Ramblin dave - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to Chris Craggs:

Bamford was pretty busy on Sunday!

Conversation between my girlfriend and another nearby belayer:
Him: "I've never seen this many people at Bamford!"
Her: "Yeah, I wonder what Stanage is like?"
Him: "It's a gritstone edge about 7km long and 12m high, but that's not important right now..."
In reply to Offwidth:

> Then I'm dissapoined in you.

Well you do seem to have taken on something of a father-figure role for Eastern grit, so perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, but do check your spelling before telling people off!

More seriously, if as you say it is not a case where the placements are becoming more marginal from wear, then I'm not really sure that OW is any more of a case of people not respecting the rock than any other route on Birchen (or the popular bits of Stanage/Froggat etc). One of the things that has struck me most about the classic routes on grit I've done in the last month is just how smooth many of the cracks are from the passage of thousands of feet and hands (and some cams/nut as well I guess). Lots of the cracks I climbed on my first visit at Birchen are super-user friendly because they are so well traveled. The grit up on the tors above Ladybower is much rougher, and more as I remember grit being 15 years ago when I last climbed regular in the Peak.
Offwidth - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:
Disappointed about spelling comments too (it wont change either as I have a life and won't properly proof read my posts here ;-)

There is no noticable change in polish on any popular grit route I've known in the 25 years I've been climbing them; from talking to older climbers most of it has been on Stanage say since nailed boots and I've even found polished rock under a foot of turf at Laddow. Ladybower was always rougher less well travelled rock. A few crags which have become more popular have cleaned up and a few of the opposite are getting overgrown. The only big changes on grit are either from cams: a handful of routes where cam damage has broken the harder surface layer and is eating into the grit matrix (most noticable on cruxy Birchen classics but its impinging on harder rock on the even more popular routes at Stanage as well now if you know where to look) or if a moron tried to protect a thin flake with a cam; alternately, damaged boulder problems from over-brushing , dirty feet or climbing on soft damp rock.

I'm no father figure: I just know the routes and care about minimising damage to the rock (as any self respecting climber should). OW is rare as its very cruxy on particularly soft rock and the damaged rock not so easily avoided by lead climbers ( but I can see a time where we will be talking about banning cams at Birchen if climbers don't change their habits). I'm just as pissed off with those morons lacking the entry talent polishing Downhill Racer on a top-rope or groups abseilling (clumpily in big boots) down hard slab routes that rely on pebbles (like the Barriers in Time slab).
Post edited at 17:53
In reply to Offwidth:

I'm just back from a couple of hours at the north end of Burbage, things like 20 Foot Crack are so polished, even with carefully cleaned shoes before setting off up it I still had some foot slips so decided not to top out without a rope and climbed back down. It's hard to believe that polish isn't cumulative, because there are less attractive routes nearby with less sheen to them.
drsdave - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

lead my first VS, did it at Burbage, Greeny Crack !
drsdave - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to LakesWinter:

and what a cool route, sweet as a nut. That Obscenity that was powerful well done!
drsdave - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to BnB:

good effort though, I did Greeny Crack on Burbage then seconded Obscenity, that was hard!!!!
Offwidth - on 09 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

It may be hard to believe but TFC was one of the first routes I ever did and I've never known it not to be polished. I acknowledge it must be cumulative (so getting gradually worse) but these days we dont climb in nails or as much in the wet/with dirty shoes.
climbingpixie - on 14 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Went to Pavey on Saturday. Did Cascade and Astra. Astra was brilliant, really enjoyed the two swings around the ribs and loved the run out!

Late start today due to a poorly pet rat. Ended up back at Chapel Head and back on Super Dupont. Conditions were still smeggy but no finger ripping this week. Can now do all the moves but the idea of linking it all together seems completely beyond me!
MFB - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:
Sunday, Dragged up Banzai Pipeline, Great End Crag, Borrowdale, it's clean
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Andrew Wilson - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Finally did White Wizard at Scafell Crag yesterday. Absolutely brilliant, pretty much bone dry.

Quite a busy day up there, Nazgul also dry enough.

Andy.
BnB - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

To Birchen for some of the most bewildering grades on grit. How a sustained 5a+ start with no gear until 8m rates VS I don't understand... Nice environment though, pretty walk-in, nice view, excellent range of routes.
robgixer - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Climbed 20 routes at Millstone Saturday, mainly cracks. It was hard work, finished in the dark. Good fun setting yourself a challange.
KellyKettle - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Had a wander up to Kinder Scout on sat, missus decided we didn't need to follow a bearing walking across edale moor, discovered we should have done so, found a tall tuft of peat, triangulated, found our way back to the decent, went to the pub, devoured a huge plate of pie.

Sunday spent almost a full day at the wall, trying to train for better endurance; Leading as many routes as we could back to back, not stopping till we fell, then switching.
In reply to KellyKettle:

Nice one! Not sure if strictly speaking getting lost on Kinder counts as climbing though. ;-)

Saturday, I drove with my family up to Brimham. I had been tipped off by a friend on facebook that there were loads of bilberries up there - she had made a number of pots of jam from her picking last weekend. My wife being of Nordic peasant stock has a genetic urge to pick bilberries to help survive the winter, so wanted to go. She said she'd belay me on a few routes in return. I did Birch Tree Wall, which I've wanted to do for a couple of decades having seen it in one of the first climbing mags I ever bought. It was actually pretty terrifying I found. Pretty shoddy gear on the traverse needed lots of old school gear fiddling jiggery-pokery to build something equalised that MIGHT work, then just a couple of shallow micro cams above. Not actually very hard, but scary as. After that I shot up Right Hand Crack, which was much more my cup of tea! Good jams and good runners. Finally the whole family, even the missus who rarely climbs these days, seconded me up Lichen Slab, which was jolly nice. We found loads of bilberry bushes but no bilberries and I thought I was going to be in trouble for compiling a dodgy dossier on blueberry-intelligence, but on the walk back to the car we hit the mother lode. Bushes covered with them, so in about 45 minutes filled up all the lunchboxes and the like with about 4 litres of little buggers. Wife will now just have to find some Yorkshire moose to shoot to keep her Nordic-nature totally content.

Fish and chips for tea in Knaresbourough on the way home - I had never even heard of Knaresborough before but it seemed a ridiculously beautiful town, currently full of TdF fun stuff too - the kids enjoyed spotting yellow bikes all over.

Sunday, myself and son no. 1 went to Stanage Plantation to meet a mate and his son. Didn't have that long but got some problems done. Tried Crescent Arete for the first time, but decided not for me. For some reason I had always thought it was UK 5a, but it's a lot harder than that! Breaking your ankles in front of an audience of kids seemed a bad idea. Perhaps I'll try harder when I just have a mate spotting sometime. Then back to Sheff for all the kids to go to Sheffield Lego club in the afternoon!
Blue Straggler - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I did my first M-graded route! Artificial (at Redpoint) and on a top rope and with AlpKit FigFours, but still an "M" (M4). I've used FigFours a few times at Nottingham Climbing Centre but at that time they were grading everything with UK tech grades there and had not set any specific routes for FigFours.

This M4 felt about the same as climbing a UK 4b or 4c route at Nottingham. That is to say, much harder than just climbing it with hands :-)
Offwidth - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to BnB:
Which one on Birchen (guessing Mast Gully Buttress which, if so, has a cam at the crux you must have missed)? and since you say 'some of', what are the other bizzare ones??
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Oujmik - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I finally went to Fairy Cave Quarry expecting a dangerous choss fest and found that it's actually a great venue with an incredible variety of routes. Led three routes at VDiff and thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Michael Gordon - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to BnB:

> To Birchen for some of the most bewildering grades on grit. How a sustained 5a+ start with no gear until 8m rates VS I don't understand...

that's the Peak for you!

pog100 - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Had Burbage to ourselves on Friday, if that counts as the weekend. Will do soon, as I retire this week! Did the Grazer, clean, Big Chimney arete, and seconded Peter's and Dover's Progress (separately, not some weird link up!)

A very pleasant day.
BnB - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to Offwidth:

Yes, Mast Gully Buttress. Had to rely on hearsay from someone who had climbed it as to absence of low down gear since I never got off the ground!!

Certainly there is gear higher up. But the crux surely consists of the initial three slaps to reach the better hold (pre-gear). Serious ankle breaking potential. Possibly worse.

We all thought Stoker's Hole overgraded at HS. Though there was some debate over the correct line. Also, while I took my time working out how to balance onto the starting block of Wonderful Copenhagen VS 5a, the route from there was a walk. Severe 5a with a problem start would be appropriate in my inexperienced eyes, so possibly HS 5a.

Nice place and will be going back. Hopefully with stronger arms.
drolex - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I did the 9 edges endurance in the climbers category on Saturday. A very enlightening experience - well a bit more than that but I'll stick with the positive points.

For those who don't know it's a race from Ladybower to the Robin Hood pub following Derwent, Stanage, Burbage N and S, Froggatt, Curbar, Baslow, Gardom's and Birchen (about 35k? a bit more for climbers who need a detour to go to Gardom's and a bit more for us who made 2 navigation mistakes). There's a runners, a walkers and a climbers category. The climbers have to climb a route of their choice on each edge. I think there were 3 groups of climbers in the 300 participants...

Our objective was to start at 8:00 and finish before 18:00. I had estimated about 5 hours of walk/run and 4 1/2 hours of climbing. Well, the least I can say is that it has been very sobering.

We managed to finish at 18:00 but our standards of climbing went down with the day. We started with a Severe at Dovestone Tor after 6k or so. Easy, until we found funny to drag our bags up the crag, and lost 20 minutes faffing around getting the bags unstuck. 5k later, Stanage: we solo a Diff route to regain a bit of time. Then Burbage N, 20k in. We start struggling on a S, immediate disco legs, my mate can't lead and I manage to butcher my way up... 1/10 on the style from the jury. Burbage south, another solo/scramble (Moderate - we're starting to feel pretty weak). Then Froggatt, Curbar and Baslow: solo, then another couple of scrambles, Gardom's will be another scramble and Birchen only a boulder problem.

Well, at least I think we kept the spirit of the challenge if nothing else (honour and dignity were lost along the way earlier in the day)... After 35k of walk/run, the last edges felt pretty horrendous, even though they were extremely easy climbs.

Despite reduced climbing gear the bags felt very heavy at the end. we'll need to go from "reduced" to "minimal" next year (and forget this bloody Eastern Grit which felt like a ton at the end). The other limiting factor was the amount of time each climb took us. Well not the climb itself, but the approach to the crag, the choice of the route (need to work on that), and the way back to the path.

Very funny day out for a climber, it actually resembles a good day of mountaineering more than I thought. We'll need a bit more organisation for next time but I can only highly recommend the challenge for other climbers.
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Benstar on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Went up gillacome buttress on Saturday. Which was fun but my highlight had to be little chamonix on the Sunday. What a great route. Lovely bit of exposure and all at vdiff. Amazing
Karl Wooffindin - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Headed to Beeston tor on Sunday and did The Thorn - a proper cracking route, lovely exposure on the crux pitch. Wanted to do pocket symphony too but the blisters from Saturdays cyclocross race put paid to that. Finished the day at Adlery doing the pleasant HVS slabs and practicing footwork.

Brilliant weekend all round.
Offwidth - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to BnB:

As I said if you look it has pro to stop any ankle break and the BMC says the start is V1 5b.

We downgraded Stoker's Hole from Chatsworth VS and its one of the easiest HS climbs there it goes past the hole if you move across and get siderunners its way easier. Wonderful Copenhagen is V0 5a the VS is for the tricky bold wall at the top (whioch you must have missed).
BnB - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to Offwidth:

Looks like I need to go back and find the pro. Doubt it would help me off the ground though!!
In reply to drolex:

> I did the 9 edges endurance in the climbers category on Saturday.

That sounds sort of great fun - I'm terrible at running but still might be inclined to give it a go next year!
gribble - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to drolex:
I did 9 edges too, though sensibly walking! Seven and a half hours, soloing climbs from mod to severe including many stars! Next year is a must, then perhaps I'll take a year off.
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LakesWinter on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to BnB:

I couldn't find the pro on Mast Gully Buttress either - I think it's no longer viable pro, whatever once existed as there is nothing now until 7m or so.
BnB - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to LakesWinter:

Someone needs to go back and check!! If you and I indeed saw correctly then it's in serious need of an upgrade, though I certainly accept my fallibility in the gear spotting department.
drolex - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:
Give it a try, it was quite funny. If you are a decent climber it shouldn't be a problem to finish earlier (we really lost a lot of time faffing around), the walk itself is easily manageable with a bit of perseverance. Mostly flat except for the ascent towards Derwent and Stanage.
drolex - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to gribble:

Were you the gentleman in a green helmet on Handy Wall Hole at Dovestone Tor (or around there) who disappeared up the route in a puff of smoke? Either way that's a clever strategy, I will probably try to solo next year as well.
Mr-Cowdrey on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Went up to cloggy on Saturday and led Longlands climb. Quite possibly the worst route I've ever climbed. Won't be climbing that again in a hurry. Initially set off to do white slab but there were already 3 teams on it unfortunately. First time at cloggy though and definitely will be going back!

Sunday, headed to Dinas Mot and climbed Plexus and Super Direct. Just WOW. 2 of yhe best E1s ever! Especially Super Direct. I led the traverse pitch on pitch 2 which I was brilliant. Again, definitely going back there.
Offwidth - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to BnB:

I've not heard of a broken placement and neither has a mate I just asked who almost lives there. Its on the left and partly sideways facing so quite a few miss it but every move from that point is a grade easier and at 4m up you are on VD terrain. Its given V1 now for a reason and is pretty easy, cf the supposedly equivalent yorkshire F5 problems.
deacondeacon - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to Offwidth:

Agree with you on this Offwidth. A tricky boulder problem start that if you fluff up you just jump back down to the ground, followed by gentle padding in diff/vdiff territory.
Sometimes easy routes are bold, look at Jitter Face at Stanage. A serious proposition for someone pushing there grade, but if you're climbing HS you're not going to fall off.
gribble - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to drolex:
> (In reply to gribble)
>
> Were you the gentleman in a green helmet on Handy Wall Hole at Dovestone Tor (or around there) who disappeared up the route in a puff of smoke? Either way that's a clever strategy, I will probably try to solo next year as well.

No, no green helmet and not a gentleman. Soloing is defintely the way to go. One year we tried just VSs, now it's solo anything that looks fun!
KellyKettle - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

> Nice one! Not sure if strictly speaking getting lost on Kinder counts as climbing though. ;-)

Tenuous link, I wanted to have a decco at Kinder downfall, as if it freezes this winter, I'd like to have a crack at it... In spite of growing up in South Yorks, until this year I have remained more or less totally unfamiliar with the peak.
LP - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:
Found myself at Back Forest near the Roaches on perfect grit in perfect solitude. After being dropped by the missus, I tucked both our skirts in and managed the first VS's of the year, which was nice. Slept in the van and was up on the Roaches early doors the next day, meeting a lot of lovely people up there too. A rather pleasant weekend.
drsdave - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to BnB:

good efforts mate
drsdave - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

did a couple of routes on south kinder, 3 steps and flash wall, well actually I didnt flash anything just pumped out but a good day either way
smithtom82 - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Up at 5am, got to seathwate by 8am, lugged gear up to sprinkling tarn. Stashed gear and bombed round to bowfell.

Climbed Bowfell buttress, first multi pitch route with my bro. 3 teams on the route already so took our time and enjoyed it from top to bottom. Brilliant route and climbed fluidly but slowly alternating leads. May try moving together on it next time in preperation for next alps trips.

Back to sprinkling, set the tent up and feasted on bangers, chilli, potatoe cakes, chocolate and tinned fruit salad washed down with the beers we left to chill in the tarn all day!!!

All topped off by a huge lie in on sun morning followed by lots of coffee and bacon sarnies.

No finer way to spend a weekend imo
BnB - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to drsdave:

Nice one matey
In reply to KellyKettle:

If it comes into condition this winter, I'd love to do it too if you need a localish partner. I would of course want to lead though... ;)
jonnie3430 - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

I was in glen croe on saturday trying to figure how to climb again. On sunday i did bludgers revelation again on the Buachaille and it was awesome, much better than the first attempt when i scared myself all the way up it so was in survival mode for the whole of the flake pitch and didn't enjoy it at all!
girlymonkey - on 15 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Took a novice friend up Tower ridge and down CMD. Great day out. He was a bit scared at points, but loved it overall :-)
PontiusPirate on 16 Sep 2014
In reply to TobyA:

Was at a Climber's Club meet this weekend - unusual in that it was on my 'home turf' (the Yorkshire Dales) - a great meet, despite me ending up at the same venue both days (and there not being a BBQ as advertised!)
Another E1 onsight, which I was quite pleased with, and lots of classic limestone HVS action. Shame it wasn't sunnier (and clear overnight for an attempt to witness the Aurora)

JR.
In reply to PontiusPirate:

Come on then - what got done this weekend?

I went to Wales. On Saturday, in at times swirling clouds and a bit of drizzle, Tony and I went to Dinas Cromlech. We climbed Noah's Warning first which went pretty smoothly, so we went back round and Tony shot up Cenotaph Corner. I'm following Steve McClure's advice of life being too short to keep "saving" routes for another day; so happily seconded and was pleased to find I didn't think the crux was desperate, so will try leading it next time. Then after a coffee break at the Slate Museum, we went into Vivian and did Mental Lentils. Some one years ago had told me it was great. It's quite nice climbing but feels more like an OK sport route than one of the 'proper' trad slate routes. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByFl834CIAA9mQG.jpg:large

Today, with five adults and seemingly large numbers of children, we went to the Sidings in Australia and did a bunch of lines in the sunshine. My older son (10) in particular had a great day and cleanly seconded a 6a. It suddenly seemed to click with him and he wanted to try hard and do technical moves. When I watched him put his toe on a thin edge that he was pushing down with his thumb on and rock over on to it, we decided that slate might be his forte! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByFk34tCcAA2T-r.jpg:large
Blue Straggler - on 01:15 Mon
In reply to TobyA:

Don't slate it :-)

I went diving yesterday. I hoped to climb today but nobody was coming out to play. I popped up to Stanage High Neb to take pics of people climbing but mostly I was getting midge bites!
pog100 - on 01:51 Mon
In reply to TobyA:

Spent today doing easy routes, apart from Marmoset!, at Crow Chin and End. A lovely time was had by all, we only experienced midges briefly near Richards Sister.
Joak - on 03:21 Mon
In reply to TobyA:

Had a very enjoyable day climbing a couple of low grade routes on the East Face of Aonach Dubh on Saturday, then took our climbing sacks for a wander over SCNL as part of our pre winter hill fitness training programme :)

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