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Do any of you remember reading this article a few years ago. I would be interested in seeing it now, but don't know which magazine it was published in or what issue? Any help would be of great use and obviously confirm your extreme general knowledge on climbing trivia.

I gracefully bow down to whom can answer this question for me!

Andi

In reply to AndiT:

It was Malham vs Raven Tor, in OTE round about issue 30 (I think it was Twid on the front cover climbing Barbarossa at Gogarth). Mark Pretty wrote about the Snor and Ian Dunn wrote for Malahm, it also was remarkable for featuring the only funny climbing cartoon I've seen (written by Alan James in a former incarnation as Pockets)

In reply to Tyler:

and commissioned by Mick Ryan, contributing editor at the time

In reply to AndiT:

Thankyou, you are both most wise and gracious.

In reply to AndiT:

Or old and anal! I've just checked it was issue 24 but I was right about the cover. Do you want to know who won?

In reply to Tyler:

Bleedin' Bivi Ledges on this page - http://www.rockfax.com/publications/pokketz.html

In reply to Tyler:

Aye please! But I was actually more interested in the way it was written. I have copies of almost all the editions including all from issue 1 to 23 then from 25 to 49 and then only a few others missing in between. That's sods law for you. I am doing a similar article soon, and was hoping for some inspiration! Oh well, will just have to try to be original and forget about my plageristic student days.

In reply to AndiT:

LOL! No contest - I'd give my right arm to have Kilnsey or Malham in the Peak instead of Raven Tor.

In reply to Tom, UKC News Editor:

If you gave your right arm to have them near you how would you climb them?

In reply to sutty:

he'd be better off going to Giggleswick and doing 'The sound of One Hand clapping'.....sorry.

In reply to Yorkspud: "...one hand slapping" actually.
Sorry, I am a nerd

In reply to Yorkspud:

Great route.

Mick

In reply to Mick Ryan: Who was it did the FA Mick ?

Andy F

In reply to Alan James - UKC:

Thanks for that link Niff, I haven't had such a good laugh over lunch for a while.

Lee

In reply to andy farnell:

Some Limey bastard.

From the ground-up of course, bolting on the lead.....using threads.

And then he had the audicity to stick a bolt-on-hold above the belay (and on the belay).

I know Tim Clifford that wee youngster has been trying to finish it to the top of the cliff.

Great route, short and steep and gymnastic.

mick

In reply to Nj:

Doh!

In reply to AndiT:


Let me guess, it will be something as revolutionary and cutting edge as "Eastern Grit vs. Western Grit" or "Yorkshire bouldering vs. Peak bouldering"...

In reply to Fiend:

what about writing something yourself Fiend?

In reply to Fiend:

Are an ass Fiend or an arse?

In reply to Mick Ryan:

Nope, been looking for a while and it still doesn't make sense?

In reply to Fiend: I was hoping for Cadshaw vs Denham, or on a more grand scale, how about Anglezarke vs Wilton 3?

(Only joking Andi, I actually liked the original Raven Tor vs Malham article)

Mick, please clarify - it don't make any sense wot u rote.

In reply to Clare:

I did, I offered them the NZ article. They weren't interested as they had some chum doing an ever-trendy Castle Hill-only article a few months later. Hmmm great.

(As a tangent: Of course you're clever enough to know that you don't have to write articles to make comments on them - you only need an idea what's interesting/useful as a reader.)



In reply to Pantontino:

Errrr, Denham - no contest, Cadshaw is in a shocking state. As for the big boys, it would have to be the Zarke despite W3's popularity - it just has a lot more to go at.

LOL =).

In reply to Fiend:

How's about a Zarke vs Wilton 2 (a much fairer contest) or Wilton 1 vs Houghton

Andy F

From what I've heard the great thing about the article was that neither of them could believe that the other thought 'their crag' was better!

It would be good to hear some other arguments, I'd say almost any of the good crags in the U.K. seem to have some sort of arch rival elsewhere. Malham v Raven Tor, Slipstones v Callerhues, The Churnet Valley v Southern Sandstone

I'd probably vote for Malham anyway, despite the tourists, the polished rock and the walk in. Stick Body Machine on Malham and there would be no contest! But then again...

In reply to AndiT:

<guffaw>and the walk in</guffaw>

Bob

In reply to AndiT:

I notice you're not denying that it could be East vs. West or Peaks vs. Yorks!!



In reply to AndyF:

The Zarke again, no contest, as W2 is lacking in good easy-mid-grade stuff.

W2&3 vs Zarke? Hmmmm that's probably a bit too much...

In reply to Fiend:

no, just thought that perhaps you should do more article writing. No dig intended (for once!)

In reply to Fiend:


STFU you plonker Fiend. What do you think you are some kind of rocket scientist.

It ain't rocket science.

Now go and paint one of your figurines, write some tormented entry on your blog, or go and do something really useful like man the phones at the Good Samaritans.

Mick

In reply to Mick Ryan:

Miserable scrote!

In reply to Fiend:

It wasn't me who was trying to be a clever dick and being all smug and superior to the original poster, now was it lovely?

If you want publishing Fiend, which you do, give it some more thought with that everpulsating superior brain of yours.

Mick

In reply to Fiend:


Your intuition astounds me!?!

I've already posted on the boudering forum what it will be about, it's no secret. If you're quick you could write it before me! Good luck.

I've got hold of a copy of the article now and I agree that the cartoon is pretty funny, I like Simon in the background with his pint! Cheers.

In reply to AndiT:

Have you? I didn't see...

In reply to Fiend:

Your clarity of vision isn't a strong point.