In reply to Yrmenlaf:
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> The arete at the far end (can't remember its name) is a class Severe
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> Y.
I was thinking of Tranmire Arete, which my 1980 brown guide (my new guide is in the car, and I am bone idle) gives at V Diff.
I thought it hard for a V Diff. Shall we have a long, heated debate on the subject of its grade?
Y.