/ Ran Fiennes Turns Back Before Everest Summit.

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'Hilda' - on 04 Jun 2005
Just read that Ran Fiennes decided to turn back 1/2 an hour out of Camp 4 on his Everest Summit attempt due to a 'tight chest' on http://www.jagged-globe.co.uk


I bet he's gutted!
Jonathan Lagoe - UKC - on 04 Jun 2005
In reply to 'Hilda':

Indeed. My mate was on the same summit push today (different party) and I'm desperate to know if he made it. Should know in the next few hours.
Carpe Diem - on 04 Jun 2005
In reply to Jonathan Lagoe - UKC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4609213.stm

says 7 0f the 11 summited.
Dave Mycroft on 04 Jun 2005 - cpc1-macc1-4-0-cust122.bagu.cable.ntl.com [bagu-cache-6.server.ntli.net]
In reply to 'Hilda': Amazing how the BBC have been so quick to put Ran's failure on their front page within a couple of hours, but Alan Hinkes' success has hardly been covered.

Also they say "He had been trying to become the first man to reach both polar ice caps and conquer the world's highest mountain" - Park Young Seok did it earlier this year, having also completed all 14 8000ers.
Jonathan Lagoe - UKC - on 04 Jun 2005
In reply to Carpe Diem:

Aye, thanks - my mate is with Himex not JG, no news from them yet.
'Hilda' - on 04 Jun 2005
In reply to Dave Mycroft: I completely agree! Alan Hinkes achievement has been mostly overlooked (so far). Yesterday's news had lots of Ellen MacArthur sailing across the channel, but nothing on Alan Hinks. Doesn't make sense.

Success doesn't seem to merit news coverage unless they know who you are. This country's obsession with 'celebrity' means that those who are outstanding don't get the exposure they so rightly deserve.
Carpe Diem - on 04 Jun 2005
In reply to Dave Mycroft:

Didnt a certain Mr E Hillary do that years before???

Everest 53
South pole 58
north pole 85
Dave Mycroft on 04 Jun 2005 - cpc1-macc1-4-0-cust122.bagu.cable.ntl.com [bagu-cache-6.server.ntli.net]
In reply to Carpe Diem: And there's another 14 people have done it. AFAIK Park is the only one to do the "Grand Slam" of all 14 8000ers and both poles.
ids5678 on 04 Jun 2005 - host86-132-220-100.range86-132.btcentralplus.com
In reply to Dave Mycroft:
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> Also they say "He had been trying to become the first man to reach both polar ice caps and conquer the world's highest mountain" - Park Young Seok did it earlier this year, having also completed all 14 8000ers.

They've since changed it so that it says he was trying to become the first Briton to reach both poles and climb Everest. Even this is incorrect, as David Hempleman-Adams has done it, and as the BBC gave him blnket coverage at the time they should really know better.

Perhaps they originally meant "cross both polar ice caps..." and it was "corrected" by a sub-editor who didn't know what he was talking about. If so, the original claim might have been correct, though it sounds like a bit of a contrived, post-hoc first.

KeithW - on 04 Jun 2005
In reply to 'Hilda':

This story - which is, let's not forget, one of failure - has made all the BBC news reports today. Yet there's no mention of Jake Meyer, who has just become the youngest Briton to summit AND has done all Seven Summits to boot.

http://www.adventurepeaks.com/news/news.htm

Congratulations Jake & all the team who helped him there.
al99 - on 05 Jun 2005
In reply to KeithW: I agree with you, it is bad news for Rans, but we should definately be happy that a brit has become the youngest male in the world to climb the seven summits, I think it is awesome. Good on Jake Meyer, and lets hope he has a safe trip home.
mac_climb on 05 Jun 2005 - host81-157-239-68.range81-157.btcentralplus.com
In reply to al99: that man is no human,
matt cartney on 05 Jun 2005 - host217-42-52-156.range217-42.btcentralplus.com
In reply to KeithW:

The media attention of failure more than success is no surprise. Its a peculiarly British thing to hate our sportsmen/women. Look at the slagging Hinkes gets on this forum from people who have presumably never met him. Fiennes will probably get more attention for failure than he would have if he'd succeeded, and lots of fat journos will slag him off for not making it, and silly bints on daytime TV will say climbing mountains is dangerous and should be banned. I was amazed at the vitriol Paula Radcliffe got for not making it in Athens. People love to see someone fail in the UK and the more succesful that person has been in the past the better.
matt
Doug on 05 Jun 2005
In reply to matt cartney:
more likely that more of the 'British public' have heard of Ran Fiennes than Alan Hinkes so its considered more newsworthy
Slugain Howff on 05 Jun 2005 - 81-179-102-18.dsl.pipex.com
matt cartney on 05 Jun 2005 - host217-42-52-156.range217-42.btcentralplus.com
In reply to Doug:
True, also.
matt cartney on 05 Jun 2005 - host217-42-52-156.range217-42.btcentralplus.com
In reply to Slugain Howff:
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> We all like Hinkes


Good stuff.
matt
Paul Atkinson - on 05 Jun 2005
In reply to 'Hilda': There's a good piece in today's Observer about Hinkes which will be on their website.

Shame about Ran Fiennes - a nice bloke and amazing example of what mind over matter can achieve if you're nails enough. His 7 marathons in 7 days a few months after an MI and bypass surgery is to me the greatest of all the fanatastic feats mentioned above (not to detract from the others of course)

cheers, Paul
Tim - on 08 Jun 2005
In reply to Jonathan Lagoe - UKC:

Jonathan - I have a mate climbing with Himex too - I heard two days ago that he'd made the summit on Saturday morning, 6.30am (presumably UK time? not sure though). Dunno if it's the same mate we share but his name is Richard Staite, climbing on the north side, if that helps.

Cheers
Tim
tb on 08 Jun 2005 - 212.162.238.6 whois?
In reply to Carpe Diem:
> (In reply to Dave Mycroft)
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> Didnt a certain Mr E Hillary do that years before???
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> Everest 53
> South pole 58
> north pole 85

I think it's about having walked to both poles and climbed Everest. I don't know about the North pole exped but Hilary drove a tractor to the South pole
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Gav M - on 08 Jun 2005
In reply to tb:

> Hilary drove a tractor to the South pole

I am going to drive a tractor to the top of everest, do you think I'll be able to raise enough sponsorship?
Jonathan Lagoe - UKC - on 08 Jun 2005
In reply to Tim:

Thanks Tim, my mate is Jeremy Benton - summitted a few minutes earlier than your mate! 0622 local time. A good time to be there, with the whole day to get down.
Erik B - on 08 Jun 2005
In reply to the real dr gav: aye, Im the chief test driver for Case International, Im sure I can sort out some sort of sponsorship package for you.

poo yer tatties clean loooons
tb on 08 Jun 2005 - 212.162.238.6 whois?
In reply to the real dr gav:

probably. write to New Holland or John Deere and see if they are interested.


Hilary's trip to the south pole was interesting. he got into a heap of trouble as the tractor team were only supposed to be supporting the walking team (doing supply dumps) but they made such good progress they decided (under Hilary's leadership) to press on. The team they were supposed to be supporting were apparently most unimpressed. I can't remember the details but have a feeling that Hilary's lot actually made it to the pole before the group they were supposed to be supporting

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