In reply to hairy monkey:
I don't see what's selfish and short-sighted about offering some criticism. Like I said, I think the place is great and I'm glad we finally have a wall in Manc, but I think it could be an awful lot better. If you want constructive suggestions, then how about (I thought I'd made these obvious, but if you need them spelling out..):
1. More routes of a sustained nature, where success doesn't depend on whether you can do one particular move, but more on building up endurance and fitness. Like someone else said, it's training for the outdoors, so you should be able to improve on a route without having to resort to months of bouldering just to build up the strength to do one particular move.
2. More varied climbing on the routes. Cranking vertically from hold to hold in straight line is all very well, but doesn't hold the attention for very long.
3. More regular changes to the routes. MCC appears to have a policy of blitzing the whole wall at once. I'd suggest changing the routes on particular lines on a rotation system, rather than all at once.
4. More routes in the mid-grades. There is a distinct lack of routes at 6c/+, which means that anyone operating at about 6b level must jump up to 7a if they want to climb anything harder, which will invariably lead to people dogging routes.
Right, that's it. If said all I have to on the matter. Sorry if I've offended anyone or p*ssed anyone off, as that wasn't my intention, but I spend rather a lot of money in that place so feel I have the right to suggest some changes to make it better. And surely that's better than just p*ssing off to another wall without saying anything.