In reply to dave packer:
> (In reply to Simon White) ... goretex jacket to hand and wear it over the top of your down jacket.
Don't think that will work for me as any down jacket will need a waterproof layer at least 3 sizes larger.
Of course there will be some compromise between warmth and water tolerance. The Redpoint looks thin enough in terms of bulk to be a mid layer if you're carrying your waterproof but as it's synthetic it will also cope with some rain on its own without getting wrecked.
Naturally it won't be as warm as down but how does it compare with, say, a mid layer fleece? Anyone with experience to share would be appreciated.