In reply to Mick - UKClimbing.com:
In my opinion this is an excellent winter ascent that Dave and Mark deserve a lot of credit for for pulling off, but the arguments over if it should have been done / not done are basically irrelevant as it won't be ascended again / by many for two reasons:
1. It is very rarely in condition. These two climbers live in the valley, and I expect could only get to the route in these conditions because they could walk there from where they live, not a lot of traffic was moving in the south lakes last Sunday. The proof of this is that it was no secret locally that Rick and Andy tried it ten years ago, and a small number of local climbers have had it on their possibles list for at least that long, but it took until now for it to be done. (Steve Ashworth lives about a mile and a half from the crag and hasn't been on it, certainly not through lack of tallent, so I can only imagine through lack of conditions.)
2. There are just not that many people climbing this hard in the Lakes. There were all sorts of arguments put forward about Snickersnack (VIII 9) two years ago, and how it would open the doors to the 'out of condition, dry tooling hoards' to thrash the crags to death. It hasn't happened, Snickersnack has had two winter ascents. Even Botrill Slabs (IV 7) and Engineer Slabs (IV 7), both recognised as being three start classics have only had about 20 and 10 ascents respectivly. The only route that does get quoted again and again as being trashed is Bowfell Buttress (which I think is out of place as it is both a three star V. Diff and V 6, and people who polish it shouldn't critasise those who scratch it) and that is at a lot more acsessable grade.
Given then that you would need two tallented climbers (or at least one and a willing second) who live in Great Langdale, to be at home when we get these conditions again, then the likelyhood of many ascents is minimal.
And as an after thought Gimmer may have more Summer traffic that Winter traffic, but this is no argument for it not having winter ascents. It's like saying I shouldn't be able to cycle (winter climb) along roads (crags)as there are more people travelling along them in cars (rock climbers), and some of these (rock climbers who hate scratched rock)think cyclists (winter climbers) shouldn't be allowed.