/ NEWS: It's Everest Season
Rob Gauntlett and James Hooper are attempting to become the youngest Britons to reach the summit of Mount Everest.
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Erm, is this in the right forum?
Did I blink or did this just move?
This Australian couple are on Everest at the moment their almost daily updates make interesting reading.
There's also another team - EverestMax. They are attempting to become the first team to go from the lowest (land) point on earth, the Dead Sea (they spent three months cycling across 8 contries) to the highest point, Everest. They are also raising money for three really worthwhile charities.
You can find the full details at http://www.everestmax.com
didnt some swedish person do that in 1996? or was the just from sea level? Think i remmeber him being talked about in boukreevs and kraukers (sp?) books
I don't know about that. According to this http://www.tiso.com/about/sponsorship/expeditions/everest_max/ "The team of 16 aim to be the first to complete the ascent from the shores of the Dead Sea to the summit of Everest"
You're thinking of Goran Kropp, who cycled from Stockholm to Kathmandu, walked up Everest, and then went home the way he came, all unsupported by Sherpas. Pretty good effort I reckon.
I must admit I think all this is getting a bit silly - are we going to get people digging deeper and deeper holes to climb to the summit of Everest from? Or diving to the bottom of the Marianas Trench then summiting Everest?
Tim McCartney-Snape did the first Sea2Summit in 1990, walking from the Bay of Bengal. He first soloed high on the west ridge (as high or higher than the current huge army team are) then did the normal route, without O2.
Kropp only made his own way through the icefall once, then used the regular Sherpa-made route the rest of the time. He also received food from a support crew.
Who's going to be first to climb Mauna Loa? 38,000 feet, but you start at the bottom of the Pacific.
Conan who sometimes posts on here is out there trying again after breaking his leg on summit day last time. He's asking for charity sponsorship, and there's a link to that from this news item;
Conans effort is epic considering what went on before, keep going man
As for the army, good luck guys, beats being shot at in Afganistan or Iraq
although statistically more dangerous,
More sad news I am afraid. Solo British climber David Sharp has died on Everest
http://www.everestnews.com/everest2006/sharpeverest05172006.htm Did anyone know him?
Yeah what a wimp and a loser
Heard the other night that Kenton Cool topped out for the third time earlier this week - a british record?
Has he done it with out bottled oxygen, sherpa support etc. come on Alison heargreaves really picked up the gauntlet passed down by the likes of Messner, when she climbed solo without bottled gas ten years ago.
So Mr Cool has reached the lofty hieghts of super punter, its all pretty meaniingless really.
> Heard the other night that Kenton Cool topped out for the third time earlier this week - a british record?
> Has he done it with out bottled oxygen, sherpa support etc.
No. He is working as a guide on Everest.
Alison Hargreaves was on the S Col route with lots of other people on the mountain. Messner went in the monsoon when it would be warmer/no other people (?) and did a new route. Different definitions of 'solo'.
> No. He is working as a guide on Everest.
Just another day at the office then !, how is this exceptional in climbing terms? good PR for jagged globe.
By the way Hargreaves and Messener both summited on the North side.
I'm sure its quite possible to argue, philosophically, that any attempt to get to the top of a rock is equally pointless (or equally otherwise). However in socio-economic terms Kenton's contribution is quite 'pointy'. He earns money, thus participate, he participates in the redistribution of his (often wealthy) clients' money, he creates jobs and is part of a large industry.
Really rather depends what the 'point' is.
Yes i agree he is a fine ambassador for the industry.
Plus i think the term advisor would be a little more apt in relation to physicaly guiding on Everest, there are very few climbers exluding sherpas who have the strength to do this, i know for a fact that clients will be climbing under there own steam, using fixed ropes, one on one short roping etc is just not an option at the highest altitudes, when the shit hits the fan a storm or hypoxia sets in its every man for himself up there, guide or no guide.
> Just another day at the office then !, how is this exceptional in climbing terms?
Did anyone say it was exceptional in climbing terms? Although by definition, it does make Mr Cool unique in the UK, which is exceptional by some criteria.
A Palestinian and an Israeli are on the same rope in a summit push to Everest. They are part of the Everest Peace Project expedition of nine mountaineers from seven countries and five faiths - Islam,Christianity,Judaism,Hinduism and Buddhism
> More sad news I am afraid. Solo British climber David Sharp has died on Everest
made even sadder by other climbers who passed him "perhaps hours from death", but didn't help
> A Palestinian and an Israeli are on the same rope in a summit push to Everest. They are part of the Everest Peace Project expedition of nine mountaineers from seven countries and five faiths - Islam,Christianity,Judaism,Hinduism and Buddhism
Go on Cy, what's the punchline?
Got into the office this morning and a bloke I work with that's a good mate of Conan Herrod (he of broken leg fame and poster on here). Apparently he summited last Friday. Good effort.
Inglis set to lose his fingertips to frostbite
Tuesday May 23, 2006
By Derek Cheng
Mark Inglis will remember the final push for the Everest summit as the most challenging part of his triumphant ascent, but also as a fatal blow to his prospects as a concert pianist.
"The ends of a few of my fingers are an interesting colour, a bit black, and will probably drop off," Inglis told the Herald last night while en route to a medical clinic in Kathmandu, Nepal.
"But that's all right. I couldn't play the piano before, and I guess I won't be playing in the future."
On May 15, Inglis, 47, became the first double amputee to reach the 8850m Mt Everest summit in a journey that tested his endurance and skill through an ice and snow adventure in minus 40C temperatures.
He arrived in the Nepalese capital yesterday relieved, back in the arms of wife Anne and nursing his injuries.
"The journey did a bit of work on the [leg] stumps, a combination of knocking them around a bit and a bit of frostbite.
"We'll be on a plane first thing tomorrow back to New Zealand, and I'll probably spend a few days in hospital to get the stumps right. And then the frostbite to the fingers ... That's life."
So was it worth it?
"Hell yes! You know what Sir Ed said, and to 'knock the bastard off' is something I really understand now.
"It was bloody hard, harder than I expected, and for that it was well worthwhile.
"It's something I went out to do for my own benefit, disabled people's benefit, and primarily it's an achievement that I'll never have taken away from me."
Inglis said the true test was soldiering on through doubt and freezing temperatures during the final push for the summit.
"Eight hours going up and eight coming down, it was very, very hard, and it's just a measure of how well you think and how hard you go.
"And she's a touch chilly up there. I even got a bit of frostbite under my chin where there was a gap between my oxygen mask and my balaclava. It was such a cold day, minus 35 to minus 40 degrees."
Inglis said it made reaching the summit that much more rewarding, though he didn't hang around long once there.
"We touched the top and then it was a bit like, 'Shit it's cold, let's get out of here'.
"The top of the world looks pretty flat, everything else looks so low.
"It's a bit like standing on top of Mt Cook and you look around and you think, 'Those other mountains aren't all that big'. But to see the curvature of the Earth is pretty neat.
"When you're well above 8000m you just don't realise how alien a place it is.
"You cannot afford to spend any time there, especially in those temperatures, or you won't get home. And I wanted to come home."
Inglis defended the party's decision not to call off the ascent to help 34-year-old British climber David Sharp, who was sheltering under a rock but later died on the mountain.
"The trouble is, at 8500m it's extremely difficult to keep yourself alive, let alone keep anyone else alive," he told Close Up.
"On that morning, over 40 people went past this young Briton, I ... radioed and [expedition manager] Russ said, 'Mate, you can't do anything. He's been there X number of hours without oxygen, he's effectively dead'.
"So we carried on. Of those 40 people who went past, no one helped him except for people from our expedition."
Sharp's parents did not blame climbers for neglecting their son.
"Your responsibility is to save yourself - not to try and save anybody else," Sharp's mother, Linda, told the Evening Gazette newspaper in Britain.
I agree with this. If nothing else was possible, a hug.
Such a difficult subject that Ian. I had signed up with Russel Brice for Everest 2003 (didn't go after getting hace on Ama Dablam) but had decided that should I come across such a situation, that I would forgoe the summit to do whatever I could to help.
However, say you met someone in BC that was woefully unprepared, you (and everyone else) advised them not tot try the mountain, they ignored you, got themselves in big trouble, then you found them, half dead, sheltering under a rock. Do you give up your summit, put yourself in danger by assuming their problems? I would, but many, many people wouldn't ... (including 40 this year) .... and I don't want to judge them, because it's difficult to knwo the full circumstances.
This deserves it's own thread ..... a very complicated, but ultimately very important discussion.
He was up on Cook for what? 14 days? Yet they still staged a successful rescue.
There's always hope. I don't think I could walk past someone to go up.
Leaving them to save yourself on the descent is different, as it's your life or there's, but to leave them as you want the summit is IMO not on. There's always hope while a guys still breathing, the human body is remarkably resilient.
Yes I went to school with Dave. Sad news indeed.
Hi, I know David quite well am a little guutted by the news. We climb cho together in 2002 (he summited, I didn't) and am disappointed at a lot of the press discriptions of him as being very inexperienced and somewhat stupid.
After Cho in 2002 David made a 2003 attempt of Everest north side with the Nth Irish national team and then tried again in 2003 with one of the commercial mobs. Both times he got to 8500 without oxygen. I was surprised to hear he was climbing with it this time as he's very much a purist. He'd previously climbed some 7000ers and done an apprentishship in the alps so he was more experienced than many of the commercial group climbers who walked past.
David definitely had stars in his eyes as far as Everest was concerned. I'm sure this led to his mistakes this trip but I'm more concerned about the 40 who went past. I think we all need to decide what makes us and what is important. If reaching any summit is more important than another life then please make sure you tell me before I find you on the end of my rope.
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