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I've recently become a very happy dad and am after a few tips.
a. Can anybody reccomend a decent all terrain type pushchair that folds up compactly, doesn't weigh much, and is well built?
b. Similar question for a rucksack style baby carrier. Needs to have plenty of space for extra stuff, be lightweight, and include some sort of sun / rain guard.
There's plenty of stuff on Google, but I would like to hear what others have to say. Any brands / makes / features to avoid?
Whilst we are on the subject of baby stuff if anybody has any tips for decent paraphenalia they'd like to share feel free to post.
Cheers,
MattH
a. Can anybody reccomend a decent all terrain type pushchair that folds up compactly, doesn't weigh much, and is well built?
b. Similar question for a rucksack style baby carrier. Needs to have plenty of space for extra stuff, be lightweight, and include some sort of sun / rain guard.
There's plenty of stuff on Google, but I would like to hear what others have to say. Any brands / makes / features to avoid?
Whilst we are on the subject of baby stuff if anybody has any tips for decent paraphenalia they'd like to share feel free to post.
Cheers,
MattH
In reply to MattH:
Not sure what is available now (we bought our buggy over 3 years ago now). One thing to look at will be the ground clearance. There are a lot of buggies out there that say they are all terain, but what they really mean is all terain if you only go on very flat paths, and as you know there arn't that many paths to crags that are 100% flat.
we found that after a while we needed another buggy, stroller type that is good for in town for short trips or when they are tired of walking, we got an ultra light weight mclaren one that can be carried easily on the shoulder when not in use.
My littleone, well he wasn't exactly little and with me having a back problem at the time as well, we ended up not getting a back carrier.
What we did find useful was a baby gym, kept littleone entertained for ages, including at the crag
The most useful piece of kit (if you can call them that ;-S) though was all of our friends, they were excellent about having a baby going to the crag with them (including helping carrying all the stuff that was needed) I was so glad that though none of our friends have children, (some confessed to usually not liking children) they still invited us to go climbing with them, were patient and forgiving of the occasional crying, nappy changing etc that comes with having a baby in toe.
Not sure what is available now (we bought our buggy over 3 years ago now). One thing to look at will be the ground clearance. There are a lot of buggies out there that say they are all terain, but what they really mean is all terain if you only go on very flat paths, and as you know there arn't that many paths to crags that are 100% flat.
we found that after a while we needed another buggy, stroller type that is good for in town for short trips or when they are tired of walking, we got an ultra light weight mclaren one that can be carried easily on the shoulder when not in use.
My littleone, well he wasn't exactly little and with me having a back problem at the time as well, we ended up not getting a back carrier.
What we did find useful was a baby gym, kept littleone entertained for ages, including at the crag
The most useful piece of kit (if you can call them that ;-S) though was all of our friends, they were excellent about having a baby going to the crag with them (including helping carrying all the stuff that was needed) I was so glad that though none of our friends have children, (some confessed to usually not liking children) they still invited us to go climbing with them, were patient and forgiving of the occasional crying, nappy changing etc that comes with having a baby in toe.
In reply to MattH: Congratualtions
we have a quinny buzz that can be used with either the carry cot or car seat for babies up to 6 months. Even with the suspension and chunky tyres it only gives you the ability to go on hardpacked paths and smooth grass like you would find in a park. The ride is still to violent on anything approaching offroad for a young baby. the wheels come off really easily and the frame folds down so small it fits in Jay's Puma which a standard pushchair won't. It is heavy when it is put together but once you take the car seat and wheels off it is really managable.
For proper off-road, i imagine you would be walking in the peak where apart from the likes of the high peak trail the footpaths are too rough to push a baby in even an offroad buggy, you are better off using a baby carrier that will hold your little one face in to your chest.
we have a quinny buzz that can be used with either the carry cot or car seat for babies up to 6 months. Even with the suspension and chunky tyres it only gives you the ability to go on hardpacked paths and smooth grass like you would find in a park. The ride is still to violent on anything approaching offroad for a young baby. the wheels come off really easily and the frame folds down so small it fits in Jay's Puma which a standard pushchair won't. It is heavy when it is put together but once you take the car seat and wheels off it is really managable.
For proper off-road, i imagine you would be walking in the peak where apart from the likes of the high peak trail the footpaths are too rough to push a baby in even an offroad buggy, you are better off using a baby carrier that will hold your little one face in to your chest.
In reply to Jon Greengrass:
We have a Quinny Buzz too for our four week old Douglas. I can't imagine any pushchair being able to handle real off road conditions.
A papoose is the way to go. We are using a Mothercare one that my sister gave me, although Douglas now seems less happy with the face in position than he was when he was a new born. At around three months they suggest having the child forward facing but still strapped to your front.
You can't use a back mounted baby cariier until their neck muscles are strong enough to support their head. The guides suggest 6 months although this obviously depends on the baby.
We have a Quinny Buzz too for our four week old Douglas. I can't imagine any pushchair being able to handle real off road conditions.
A papoose is the way to go. We are using a Mothercare one that my sister gave me, although Douglas now seems less happy with the face in position than he was when he was a new born. At around three months they suggest having the child forward facing but still strapped to your front.
You can't use a back mounted baby cariier until their neck muscles are strong enough to support their head. The guides suggest 6 months although this obviously depends on the baby.
In reply to MattH:
We have a Jane (han-ay) three wheeler - Slalom pro model with the rebel carseat http://www.johnstonprams.co.uk/cat161_1.htm
The car seat clips directly into the frame of the buggy so its easier to transport tiny tots while in/out the car. Once they are a bit older, there is a seperate bit you clip on (and discard the car seat bit) which turns it into a pushchair.
The wheel are fairly large, disc brakes, good back brakes, tyres seem sturdy enough and we've been very 'offroad' with it - up into smaller hills etc. Folds up enough to get into back of most cars.
Baby carrier - We eventually went with the Macpac. Its comfy, practical, no fuss. http://www.fieldandtrek.com/cat_id/EQUIRUCKBABY/product-Macpac-Vamoose-1433...
Decent paraphanalia - get a baby sling. Will make your lives so much easier - helps stop colic as well as keeping baby close, happy and comfy. http://www.littlepossums.co.uk are one of many companies. You can get non-hippy looking ones too so don't be put off by the bright rainbow patterns
Use cloth nappies if you aren't already doing so - http://www.babykind.co.uk - better for baby - stops nasty chemicals leaching from disposables - better for their hip and joint development and importantly, saves you around £600 over the first couple of years - more if you then go onto having more kids. And they are not hard work
We have a Jane (han-ay) three wheeler - Slalom pro model with the rebel carseat http://www.johnstonprams.co.uk/cat161_1.htm
The car seat clips directly into the frame of the buggy so its easier to transport tiny tots while in/out the car. Once they are a bit older, there is a seperate bit you clip on (and discard the car seat bit) which turns it into a pushchair.
The wheel are fairly large, disc brakes, good back brakes, tyres seem sturdy enough and we've been very 'offroad' with it - up into smaller hills etc. Folds up enough to get into back of most cars.
Baby carrier - We eventually went with the Macpac. Its comfy, practical, no fuss. http://www.fieldandtrek.com/cat_id/EQUIRUCKBABY/product-Macpac-Vamoose-1433...
Decent paraphanalia - get a baby sling. Will make your lives so much easier - helps stop colic as well as keeping baby close, happy and comfy. http://www.littlepossums.co.uk are one of many companies. You can get non-hippy looking ones too so don't be put off by the bright rainbow patterns
Use cloth nappies if you aren't already doing so - http://www.babykind.co.uk - better for baby - stops nasty chemicals leaching from disposables - better for their hip and joint development and importantly, saves you around £600 over the first couple of years - more if you then go onto having more kids. And they are not hard work
In reply to MattH:
we used a back carrier from 6 months. Always thought it odd to see people struggling with hideously expensive looking buggies in the outdoors compared with the great mobility back carriers give
we used a back carrier from 6 months. Always thought it odd to see people struggling with hideously expensive looking buggies in the outdoors compared with the great mobility back carriers give
In reply to Pinky:
strangely (my back can be problem prone) I found carrying children and walking helped my back. (Provided I did some walks without a carrier as well, so I was reasonably fir)
strangely (my back can be problem prone) I found carrying children and walking helped my back. (Provided I did some walks without a carrier as well, so I was reasonably fir)
In reply to Anonymous:
sometimes the babies just don't want to be in a carrier though. Our son went through that phase recently in this heat.
sometimes the babies just don't want to be in a carrier though. Our son went through that phase recently in this heat.
In reply to MattH:
Pushchair - all terrain ones are certainly not all terrain. You'll look silly carrying the baby in a pushchair over anything that has any bumps. Buy the cheapest one from mothercare, with those little solid wheels that don't get punctures, and use it round town. If you're going anywhere away from tarmac then use a baby carrier.
Baby carrier - we've been very happy with our macpac.
Paraphenalia - we try to avoid it. Less is more.
Pushchair - all terrain ones are certainly not all terrain. You'll look silly carrying the baby in a pushchair over anything that has any bumps. Buy the cheapest one from mothercare, with those little solid wheels that don't get punctures, and use it round town. If you're going anywhere away from tarmac then use a baby carrier.
Baby carrier - we've been very happy with our macpac.
Paraphenalia - we try to avoid it. Less is more.
In reply to JoH: disc brakes! (snigger)
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In reply to Jon Greengrass:
I know, no need for a wink - mock away - I did laugh out loud initially too but its just kinda amusing to have them. No real purpose
I know, no need for a wink - mock away - I did laugh out loud initially too but its just kinda amusing to have them. No real purpose
In reply to JoH:
yes, I suppose that is limiting. We must have been lucky with ours. Hot weather could be a problem though - I think we avoided extremes - for our own comfort as much
yes, I suppose that is limiting. We must have been lucky with ours. Hot weather could be a problem though - I think we avoided extremes - for our own comfort as much
In reply to Anonymous:
I found having a c-section and a larger than average child meant carrying him in a child carrier was not an option, and if my partner had carried him, it would have meant I would have had to carry all the kit.
The buggy took all the weight off my back, was even able to put the bouldering mat strap around the handlebar.
He's 3 now and we havn't been using the big buggy for about a year. To start with if he got tired he got carried, but he is now walking all the time except very long walk-ins.
We now find that a few toys and books that he carries in his own rucksack keep him busy when he isn't wanting to climb keep him busy.
I found having a c-section and a larger than average child meant carrying him in a child carrier was not an option, and if my partner had carried him, it would have meant I would have had to carry all the kit.
The buggy took all the weight off my back, was even able to put the bouldering mat strap around the handlebar.
He's 3 now and we havn't been using the big buggy for about a year. To start with if he got tired he got carried, but he is now walking all the time except very long walk-ins.
We now find that a few toys and books that he carries in his own rucksack keep him busy when he isn't wanting to climb keep him busy.
In reply to MattH:
Congratulations!
Can't help with the pram/pushchair stuff, but a friend of mine recommended a Mothercare sound activated cot mobile/lightshow thingy as a gift for my newborn nephew. My brother said it is fantastic and apart from one occasion (when he didn't realise it was voice activated) where they thought they had ghosts it's been a godsend. It is about £20, it plays music and projects light patterns onto the ceiling. Not much money for apparently quite a lot of sleep!
Good luck with everything.
Congratulations!
Can't help with the pram/pushchair stuff, but a friend of mine recommended a Mothercare sound activated cot mobile/lightshow thingy as a gift for my newborn nephew. My brother said it is fantastic and apart from one occasion (when he didn't realise it was voice activated) where they thought they had ghosts it's been a godsend. It is about £20, it plays music and projects light patterns onto the ceiling. Not much money for apparently quite a lot of sleep!
Good luck with everything.
In reply to Pinky:
yes, we have a 4 year old who is really anxious to carry his own "rations" (his own word for the contents)
yes, we have a 4 year old who is really anxious to carry his own "rations" (his own word for the contents)
In reply to Pinky:
I meant to add, I understand why you wouldn't want to carry for a while...
I meant to add, I understand why you wouldn't want to carry for a while...
In reply to MattH:
It is incredibly easy to disappear up yer arse with baby gear.
We bought a dear one that the infant car seat clips into, turns into a buggy when older, but a bit heavy for lifting in and out of the car. All very good until he got bigger; we now have the pram of her dreams in a shed (he's 13 months mind!!). We bought a £60 MacLaren for going to Tenerife; one of the foldy up shoulder strap kinds as mentioned earlier, as it is easier to cart about on planes. The wee man is now in residence on that one. I think Jon mentioned all terrain earlier; we tried him on a friends on a good forestry road, gave up after 50m as he was in dangert of yon Shoogled Baby Syndrome; twas a piece of yuppy wank....
Back packs are the way forward; we got ours off a relative; turns out it's quite good (Bushbaby). Try and find whats comfortable, remember and not use the logic you'd use for choosina sac for backpacking for hours. The nipper will want out quite a bit and you'll be doing more moderate sdtuff I'd imagine.
The forward facing BabyBjorn type packs have the added ability of making almost any man hot to the opposite sex....
If you are looking for a travel cot then look no further than the Littlelife Twinarc. Smashing bit of kit at home in the beach, hotel or departure lounge.
It is incredibly easy to disappear up yer arse with baby gear.
We bought a dear one that the infant car seat clips into, turns into a buggy when older, but a bit heavy for lifting in and out of the car. All very good until he got bigger; we now have the pram of her dreams in a shed (he's 13 months mind!!). We bought a £60 MacLaren for going to Tenerife; one of the foldy up shoulder strap kinds as mentioned earlier, as it is easier to cart about on planes. The wee man is now in residence on that one. I think Jon mentioned all terrain earlier; we tried him on a friends on a good forestry road, gave up after 50m as he was in dangert of yon Shoogled Baby Syndrome; twas a piece of yuppy wank....
Back packs are the way forward; we got ours off a relative; turns out it's quite good (Bushbaby). Try and find whats comfortable, remember and not use the logic you'd use for choosina sac for backpacking for hours. The nipper will want out quite a bit and you'll be doing more moderate sdtuff I'd imagine.
The forward facing BabyBjorn type packs have the added ability of making almost any man hot to the opposite sex....
If you are looking for a travel cot then look no further than the Littlelife Twinarc. Smashing bit of kit at home in the beach, hotel or departure lounge.
In reply to Removed User:
The Bush Baby one is good and adjustable for different length backs (you and your partner) if you are above 6 foot it's the only one with a long enough back length.
If you go for an actual BabyBjorn front pouch get the active model as there is no back support on the standard one and all the weight is through your shoulders
Seconded on the twinarc, it's a nightmare to put up on your own the first time but gets easier!
Ade
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> Back packs are the way forward; we got ours off a relative; turns out it's quite good (Bushbaby). Try and find whats comfortable, remember and not use the logic you'd use for choosina sac for backpacking for hours. The nipper will want out quite a bit and you'll be doing more moderate sdtuff I'd imagine.
> Back packs are the way forward; we got ours off a relative; turns out it's quite good (Bushbaby). Try and find whats comfortable, remember and not use the logic you'd use for choosina sac for backpacking for hours. The nipper will want out quite a bit and you'll be doing more moderate sdtuff I'd imagine.
The Bush Baby one is good and adjustable for different length backs (you and your partner) if you are above 6 foot it's the only one with a long enough back length.
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> The forward facing BabyBjorn type packs have the added ability of making almost any man hot to the opposite sex....
> The forward facing BabyBjorn type packs have the added ability of making almost any man hot to the opposite sex....
If you go for an actual BabyBjorn front pouch get the active model as there is no back support on the standard one and all the weight is through your shoulders
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> If you are looking for a travel cot then look no further than the Littlelife Twinarc. Smashing bit of kit at home in the beach, hotel or departure lounge.
> If you are looking for a travel cot then look no further than the Littlelife Twinarc. Smashing bit of kit at home in the beach, hotel or departure lounge.
Seconded on the twinarc, it's a nightmare to put up on your own the first time but gets easier!
Ade
In reply to MattH: Congratulations! I found the main problem with going off-road is the ground clearance issue. Best option is a good three wheeler which unfortunately tend to be a bit heavy. We have a Maclaren Mac 3 which works quite well as the design is such that there is no axle between the back two wheels so nothing to catch on those rocky paths, also helps with having long legs to as you can stride out without hitting your feet on the chair. I found also that when it gets really rough you can lift the back two wheels up and negotiate obstacles in a wheelbarrow-type action. Most chairs only suit 3 months plus but you can get a pram attachment to put little newborns into.
As far as child carriers go, look at "Littlelife" or "Macpac".
As far as child carriers go, look at "Littlelife" or "Macpac".
In reply to Removed User: you never mentione what a bitch the twin arc is to put up
In reply to Jon Greengrass:
Och stop whining!!
Did you release the two clips for the sides that the yellow poles go in? after I sussed that you have to release them, put the poles into the wee holes THEN reclip it was a doddle. Admittedly there was a wee sweat on the first time.....
Och stop whining!!
Did you release the two clips for the sides that the yellow poles go in? after I sussed that you have to release them, put the poles into the wee holes THEN reclip it was a doddle. Admittedly there was a wee sweat on the first time.....
In reply to MattH: We've got two papooses a Bushbaby and Deuter Kid Comfort. I prefer the Deuter as its has one of those air mesh backs and I get sweaty, but there is much more storage space in big pockets on the Bushbaby one.
We used a front carrier when the little ones were smaller - but I never liked really hiking with it. It made my neck ache after some time and I was always worried about tripping and squashing baby. Our youngest is 8 months and we did a 5 mile walk on sunday and he was happy on the back in his papoose. His big brother (2.5) walked some of the way then went in the other papoose once feeling lazy!
We used a front carrier when the little ones were smaller - but I never liked really hiking with it. It made my neck ache after some time and I was always worried about tripping and squashing baby. Our youngest is 8 months and we did a 5 mile walk on sunday and he was happy on the back in his papoose. His big brother (2.5) walked some of the way then went in the other papoose once feeling lazy!
In reply to JoH:
Probably the reason no-one has ever seen fit to breed with me...
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> Downhill pram racers?
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> Downhill pram racers?
Probably the reason no-one has ever seen fit to breed with me...
In reply to MattH: TGO magazine this month has a review of off road buggies.
We got ours off the web - discounted. It has a fixed front wheel (v.useful) & we've used it so much the tyres are now bald! The only bad point is the bar between the rear wheels gets in the way of my feet (I'm 6ft 3), so if you're tall try to get one with a long handle reach. Also, having an adjustable "bed" in it means you can get young ones to sleep easier when they're lying down.
We got ours off the web - discounted. It has a fixed front wheel (v.useful) & we've used it so much the tyres are now bald! The only bad point is the bar between the rear wheels gets in the way of my feet (I'm 6ft 3), so if you're tall try to get one with a long handle reach. Also, having an adjustable "bed" in it means you can get young ones to sleep easier when they're lying down.
In reply to MattH: Oh, the best non-all terrain buggy we've had is a quinny zapp. 3 wheels, Ultra-light steering, and packs down ultra-small (into own case).
In reply to MattH:
Buggies? we got an expensive 3-in-1 system that was so sturdy that pushing it round the pavements was a struggle, but the car seat bit was good. We quite quickly went on to the thirty quid stroller, which was much easier for buses and general getting about and went hand in hand with a macpac carrier really well - strap the stroller to the side or to the other half's rucksack, and you're covered for all eventualities
If you go for a carrier, avoid any traditional British makes (Karrimor etc) like the plague. They made me cringe with embarrassment at what we as a nation will perpetrate on ourselves. We went for a Macpac and it was ace - in fact, now my daughter's pushing four, it's going up for sale. Well used but still in good nick and not showing any damage (apart from the little mirror that the dog destroyed, and it's got rain and sun covers. Open to offers.
On the other hand, if you want the 3-in-1 buggy and live anywhere near West Cornwall, it's yours for free if you'll pick it up
Buggies? we got an expensive 3-in-1 system that was so sturdy that pushing it round the pavements was a struggle, but the car seat bit was good. We quite quickly went on to the thirty quid stroller, which was much easier for buses and general getting about and went hand in hand with a macpac carrier really well - strap the stroller to the side or to the other half's rucksack, and you're covered for all eventualities
If you go for a carrier, avoid any traditional British makes (Karrimor etc) like the plague. They made me cringe with embarrassment at what we as a nation will perpetrate on ourselves. We went for a Macpac and it was ace - in fact, now my daughter's pushing four, it's going up for sale. Well used but still in good nick and not showing any damage (apart from the little mirror that the dog destroyed, and it's got rain and sun covers. Open to offers.
On the other hand, if you want the 3-in-1 buggy and live anywhere near West Cornwall, it's yours for free if you'll pick it up
In reply to MattH:
All-terrain pushchairs - you won't find one that folds up compactly if you really want it to be all-terrain! Mountain Buggy are definitely worth a look, but not cheap. Great for forest tracks/bridleways, but do have their limitations. The big decision is if you go a permanently fixed front wheel (best for true off-road) or one that can swivel (much better for the supermarket) and then lock as required. I'd avoid any highstreet '3-wheelers', as they tend to weigh a tonne! Our little one's been to a few decent summits in his Mountain Buggy 'Urban' - but good local knowledge helps choose suitable peaks. Also great for leaving him with the grandparents for a walk round the lake whilst we head off for a bigger peak - they're not up for carrying him around like we would.
Front baby carriers - we had a Bushbaby one, but I could never get it to be comfortable. IMO, soft slings are the way forward. Take a look at the Little Possums website - I used the Kari-me, and then a ring sling. Suited me much better.
Rucsacs - we got given a second hand Macpac, which is great. Personally, I'd prefer it if the back went a little shorter, but it's a minor whinge. There's some good info on the Needlesports website - as it recommends, walking poles are useful.
Waterproof/fleece suits. Take a look at Togz - best I've found.
Oh, and specialist shops worth a look are Togz 4 Kidz in Keswick, and particularly the Climber's Shop Children's Shop in Ambleside. Both have websites. Staff in the Climber's Shop are really excellent - I'd be tempted to give them a ring with any questions!
Hope that's some help - feel free to email me!
All-terrain pushchairs - you won't find one that folds up compactly if you really want it to be all-terrain! Mountain Buggy are definitely worth a look, but not cheap. Great for forest tracks/bridleways, but do have their limitations. The big decision is if you go a permanently fixed front wheel (best for true off-road) or one that can swivel (much better for the supermarket) and then lock as required. I'd avoid any highstreet '3-wheelers', as they tend to weigh a tonne! Our little one's been to a few decent summits in his Mountain Buggy 'Urban' - but good local knowledge helps choose suitable peaks. Also great for leaving him with the grandparents for a walk round the lake whilst we head off for a bigger peak - they're not up for carrying him around like we would.
Front baby carriers - we had a Bushbaby one, but I could never get it to be comfortable. IMO, soft slings are the way forward. Take a look at the Little Possums website - I used the Kari-me, and then a ring sling. Suited me much better.
Rucsacs - we got given a second hand Macpac, which is great. Personally, I'd prefer it if the back went a little shorter, but it's a minor whinge. There's some good info on the Needlesports website - as it recommends, walking poles are useful.
Waterproof/fleece suits. Take a look at Togz - best I've found.
Oh, and specialist shops worth a look are Togz 4 Kidz in Keswick, and particularly the Climber's Shop Children's Shop in Ambleside. Both have websites. Staff in the Climber's Shop are really excellent - I'd be tempted to give them a ring with any questions!
Hope that's some help - feel free to email me!
In reply to Carolyn:
The 'standard' MacPac carrier - the Possum I think? - is one size only; a much better choice (if you can afford the extra money) is the posh one (V... something or other); it has two back sizes available (get the 2 unless somebody is very tall - it's fine for me (6') and my two friends (the ones with the children) who are much shorter. The 3 really only works if everyone who is going to use it is over - erm - say 5'9" at least?
The 2 size back is nominally on the short length for me, but it has always been comfortable, except on the daysacks where just the body is just too short.
The V...whatever also is a bit more comfortable and flexible - has one of those detachable rucksacks...
I hope that that helps the OP.
The 'standard' MacPac carrier - the Possum I think? - is one size only; a much better choice (if you can afford the extra money) is the posh one (V... something or other); it has two back sizes available (get the 2 unless somebody is very tall - it's fine for me (6') and my two friends (the ones with the children) who are much shorter. The 3 really only works if everyone who is going to use it is over - erm - say 5'9" at least?
The 2 size back is nominally on the short length for me, but it has always been comfortable, except on the daysacks where just the body is just too short.
The V...whatever also is a bit more comfortable and flexible - has one of those detachable rucksacks...
I hope that that helps the OP.
In reply to gbuchanan:
Ah, I have the bigger one (Vamouse?) -I assume it's a size 2, as neither my cousin or her husband (who gave it to us) as particularly tall. Suppose I could check!
Think it's the women's rucsac thing - curvy women (small waist compared to hips) tend to wear hip belts round the waist (well, they end up there anyhow!), which effectively shortens the back length. Macpac women's rucsacs have some 'float' in the hipbelt attachment to allow for this. The child carrier doesn't!
So, the only sensible conclusion is that his dad has to carry the kid!!! Unfortunately, doesn't work so well when he's at work...... or when I want him to carry the even heavier sac of climbing gear!!
Ah, I have the bigger one (Vamouse?) -I assume it's a size 2, as neither my cousin or her husband (who gave it to us) as particularly tall. Suppose I could check!
Think it's the women's rucsac thing - curvy women (small waist compared to hips) tend to wear hip belts round the waist (well, they end up there anyhow!), which effectively shortens the back length. Macpac women's rucsacs have some 'float' in the hipbelt attachment to allow for this. The child carrier doesn't!
So, the only sensible conclusion is that his dad has to carry the kid!!! Unfortunately, doesn't work so well when he's at work...... or when I want him to carry the even heavier sac of climbing gear!!
In reply to MattH:
Oh - and indispensible baby gear for walking - a lightweight cotton sarong! Great for a playmat/sunshade/towel/extra layer/tent to explore!
Oh - and indispensible baby gear for walking - a lightweight cotton sarong! Great for a playmat/sunshade/towel/extra layer/tent to explore!
In reply to MattH: get a simple maclaren buggy eg the techno xt which handles roughish paths and a carrier. we got a macpac carrier for walks as it has very good resale on ebay though both he and I don't want to be out in this heat too long.
glasgow pram centre is the cheapest for prams online, I found.
glasgow pram centre is the cheapest for prams online, I found.
In reply to Twig: Senior moment - I meant Trail, not TGO - sorry.
Must be the aluminium cooking pots.....
Must be the aluminium cooking pots.....
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