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So there we were me the lad and the Oracle from Delphi on Sharp Edge. Me n the lad slapped are crampons for the wet rock, we laughed at the punters on their arses shitting it on the glass. The Oracle comes sauntering along with his argyles pulled tight over his boots gripping perfectly. He said he'd got a surprise for me for the day ! Fantastic i thought and was impressed by how good his footwork with socks were. Those early pioneers got it right alright.

In reply to Ben C:

I've still got a set of tricounis somewhere...

Y.

In reply to Ben C:

still advocated by the lad who wrote the lake district scrambling guide... not had the nerve to try it myself- got my credibility to think about...

In reply to Yrmenlaf:

We saw an older gentleman, strolling across ice on top of Helvellyn, without difficulty of crampons. Chatting with him during a lunch stop we commented about the ice, he showed us the sole of his boot - studded with hobnails. They’re still in use and still working extremely well. Now, where have I put my tweeds?

In reply to Billy the fish: excellent ! with global warming i feel this is the way forward or is it backward !

In reply to Ben C:

I thought this was going to be a headline from the fashion section of the Westmorland Gazette or something...

In reply to DeadSquirrel:

Ah a fellow subscriber ! im getting some badger boots soon

In reply to Ben C:

Can someone translate this thread from "northern" to English please.

Ta muchly

Rob

:-P

In reply to Ben C:

Mohair jumpers were once almost in vogue for the additional "adhesion" they offered the aspiring winter hardman. I speak the truth.

In reply to Ben C: I once did Dovedale Groove in winter, the Groove was fine but the slab after it was covered in verglass, ok if its good enough for Joe and Don its good enough for me. So I took my boots and sox off and replaced with sox over boots, the friction, sox to ice was fantastic, probably easier than normal conditions.

In reply to Ben C:
Was that really crampons on Sharp Edge because the rock was WET?
Disabuse me!

In reply to Andy Say: yep you got a problem with that?

In reply to Ben C: do u really need to damage the rock by wearing crampons just because its wet???!?! quite pathetic if u ask me. Si

In reply to sihills:

Troll, by the sounds of it.

In reply to GrahamD: why should i be a troll?? im sorry but do you wear crampons everytime the rock gets wet??? just see it as being quite pathetic. Si

In reply to sihills:

Is GrahamD not saying that the OP is a troll & not you???

In reply to Allan Thomson: maybe in which case i apologise to graham.

In reply to Ben C: Ideal for climbing Scottish gullies.

In reply to sihills:

Sorry - wasn't clear. Yes the OP sounds like a Troll and you getting them to go on about crampons on wet rock sort of flushed them out. Either they're a troll or an idiot who probably looked like the biggest punter on the hill that day.

In reply to sihills:

say that to me face laddy then well see. im mot trolling it was a lot easier in crampons and good practice for my mate going to the alps next week. i have done the ridge many times in the wet in just boots.
As for damaging the rock, well stop doing all winter ascents cos even with snow n ice on it your still scratching it

In reply to GrahamD:

I never look like a punter and i certainly am no idiot. I will however be wearing socks in the future

In reply to Ben C:
Oh dear! I do hope the boys up at the lodge don't give you any grief in a couple of weeks about your attitude to crampons on summer scrambles - they can be quite hard line about things like that.

In reply to GrahamD:
Previous posts include doing Parson's Nose just before Christmas in crampons because of 'frost'. What bleedin' frost! Pining for ice in the Lakes back in November. And extolling the virtues of climbing ice at Xscape. So maybe not a troll then. What was the other option........?

In reply to Andy Say: ooh we have been doing some research. i shall ask them next week. you seem a happy chap

In reply to Andy Say: hmmm i didnt see u on Parsons but u seemed to know what the conditions were ! whats wrong with wanting some ice in the Lakes and trying to keep an ice wall open ? As you have taken it on yourself to call me an idiot I would suggest that you are having some kind of late life crisis due to the anger expressed ? Not gettin enough hey ?

In reply to Ben C:
Nay, lad. I think you'll find it was GrahamD who used the word 'idiot' and sihills who used the word 'pathetic'. Me - I say nothing.

But I'm not sure that wearing crampons on summer scrambles is quite the done thing - the more you use socks in future, the better.

In reply to Andy Say: Previous posts include doing Parson's Nose just before Christmas in crampons because of 'frost'. What bleedin' frost! Pining for ice in the Lakes back in November. And extolling the virtues of climbing ice at Xscape. So maybe not a troll then. What was the other option........?

So what was the other option you are alluding to here then ?!
Its a summer scramble but also a winter route are a few more scratches going to make any difference ?
I dont make a habit of it but if its easier with...granted on Sharp no great need but on Parsons there was. Will keep doing my thing

In reply to sihills:

I agree with you completely. The idea of anyone going on Parson's Nose with crampons, unless it has a very thick covering of ice - which it never has - is totally repugnant. It's a beautiful rock route, with quite small holds for its grade, and should be respected as such.

In reply to Gordon Stainforth:

Someone else who was there that day I didnt see you. Best stop people doing stuff like Snicker Snack on Gable too.

In reply to Ben C: haha Ben, hopefully there will be conditions suitable for you to wear crampons next week, otherwise a session of 'dry-cramponing' on the security on steep ground day may raise some smiles with the group if your not happy about wet rocks without your spikes on

See you at the Lodge.

In reply to blurry: hehe will just get my socks out !! you will look after me and hold my hand ?!

yep see u there