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NOMINATIONS: For UKClimbing.com's 2006 climbing achievement

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 Michael Ryan 05 Feb 2007
We are after nominations for best achievements of UK climbers in 2006, in the following categories.

1. Traditional Climbing
2. Sport Climbing
3. Solo
4. Alpine Climbing
5. Winter Climbing
6. Bouldering
7. Indoor Competition
8. Junior (under 16)
9. Services to Climbing
10. Best guidebook
 Norrie Muir 05 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

My nominations for UKC's registered users are:

1. Traditional Climbing - Dave MacLeod
5. Winter Climbing - Dave MacLeod
7. Indoor Competition Natty B
8. Junior (under 16) Natty B
 Glyn Jones 05 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
> We are after nominations for best achievements of UK climbers in 2006, in the following categories.
>
> 1. Traditional Climbing

Golden Piton boy

> 2. Sport Climbing
> 3. Solo
> 4. Alpine Climbing
> 5. Winter Climbing
> 6. Bouldering
> 7. Indoor Competition
> 8. Junior (under 16)
> 9. Services to Climbing
> 10. Best guidebook

In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

> 1. Traditional Climbing - Malcolm Kent
> 2. Sport Climbing - Malcolm Kent
> 3. Solo - Malcolm Kent
> 4. Alpine Climbing - Malcolm Kent
> 5. Winter Climbing - Malcolm Kent
> 6. Bouldering - Malcolm Kent
> 7. Indoor Competition - Malcolm Kent
> 8. Junior (under 16) - Malcolm Kent
> 9. Services to Climbing - Malcolm Kent
> 10. Best guidebook - Malcolm Kent

In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
Or slightly less TIC
> 1. Traditional Climbing - Dave Macleod
> 2. Sport Climbing - Rich Simpson (assuming his El Muerta thing was 2006)
> 3. Solo - ???
> 4. Alpine Climbing - ???
> 5. Winter Climbing - ???
> 6. Bouldering - Tyler Landman
> 7. Indoor Competition - Nat Berry
> 8. Junior (under 16) - Nat Berry
> 9. Services to Climbing - me, Percy and Sam
> 10. Best guidebook - Grimer

 Fiend 05 Feb 2007
In reply to GraemeA at home:

Hard to argue with any of that, including the trumpet self-blowing.
V12 Outdoor 05 Feb 2007
In reply to GraemeA at home: Seems about right, but can I add Mark Reeves to the services to climbing for his bolting work too. Oh and Panton would have won no 10 if he'd got the bloody NW guide out in time ;?
 Chris Craggs Global Crag Moderator 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

10. no contest - Eastern Grit


.....and before anyone says out BMBBM & Afar was 2005!


Chris
TimS 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
> We are after nominations for best achievements of UK climbers in 2006, in the following categories.
>
> 1. Traditional Climbing
Didier Berthoud
> 2. Sport Climbing
Edu Marin
> 3. Solo
Sharma
> 4. Alpine Climbing
> 5. Winter Climbing
Will Gadd
> 6. Bouldering
Dave Graham / Tyler Landman
> 7. Indoor Competition
> 8. Junior (under 16)
> 9. Services to Climbing
> 10. Best guidebook

 Fiend 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Chris Craggs:

BMC Burbage and Millstone guide was released, or at least available to purchase, in early-mid January 2006. So still the winner.
OP Michael Ryan 06 Feb 2007
In reply to TimS:

UK climbers Tim.
TimS 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
Sorry Mick, must read more carefully...

> 1. Traditional Climbing
Dave Macleod
> 2. Sport Climbing
Steve McClure (Did Ultimate Petzl route and a ton of other hard stuff)
> 3. Solo
Julian Lines?
> 4. Alpine Climbing
Kevin Thaw
> 5. Winter Climbing
Dave Macleod
> 6. Bouldering
Tyler Landman / James Pearson
> 7. Indoor Competition
> 8. Junior (under 16)
> 9. Services to Climbing
Climbing Works boys
> 10. Best guidebook
Burbage and everything else
 Norrie Muir 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

Here is my revised nominations:

1. Traditional Climbing – Dave MacLeod
3. Solo – Julian Lines
5. Winter Climbing – Guy Robertson
7. Indoor Competition - Natty B
8. Junior (under 16) - Natty B

 BelleVedere 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
> 1. Traditional Climbing - Dave MacLeod
> 2. Sport Climbing - ?
> 3. Solo - ?
> 4. Alpine Climbing - ?
> 5. Winter Climbing - Fiona Murray
> 6. Bouldering - ?
> 7. Indoor Competition - Natty B
> 8. Junior (under 16) - Natty B
> 9. Services to Climbing - The welsh slate rebolting crew
> 10. Best guidebook - Artic Circle Climbing
 abarro81 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
> We are after nominations for best achievements of UK climbers in 2006, in the following categories.

1. Traditional Climbing - Dave Macleod (or Mr X for maybe possibly, kinda, probably onsighting the zone. maybe. ish)
2. Sport Climbing - Rich Simpson, A muerte

4. Alpine Climbing - Emmett/Parnell (?dunno much about this stuff)

6. Bouldering - Landman for general hard ticking or Pearson for flashing 8b
 AlH 06 Feb 2007
In reply to GraemeA at home:
Shouldnt your no. 9 be sevices to Sheffield?

;0) Al
 AlH 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
1. Traditional Climbing
Dave Mc
2. Sport Climbing
?
3. Solo
Julian lines
4. Alpine Climbing
Parnell/Emmet
5. Winter Climbing
Guy Robertson
6. Bouldering
?
7. Indoor Competition
Natty B
8. Junior (under 16)
Natty B
9. Services to Climbing
UKC
10. Best guidebook
?
 Katie Weston 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
What about the 2 nutty aussies who seem to have come over here and done a stupid number of hard routes at stupid times of the day. I know they're not British, but it was on British soil, and they probably have British ancestors if you go back far enough
 JamieAyres 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Katie Weston:

Who are these dudes and what have they done then?

(must get out more..)
 danm 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com: Lets call the awards The Golden Spitoon shall we?

Come on Mick, surely you can come up with something original to spruce up your flagging website rather than nicking ideas?

The keen b**tard award should go, as Katie says, to the Aussie fruitloop who works at Outside. Parthian Shot Direct, by headtorch, after work. Sick mofo.
 Katie Weston 06 Feb 2007
In reply to JamieAyres:
these guys

http://www.planetfear.com/news_detail.asp?n_id=6082
there was an article in one of the climbing magazines this month about them, which was a bit more revealing about what they'd been up to. I know the Parthian shot ascent was this year, but they's been up to stuff in 2006, including the first solo of Gaia. and lets face it, by next year we'll have forgotten just how crazy they are!
 niggle 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

1. Traditional Climbing

Dave Macleod

2. Sport Climbing

Steve Mcclure

3. Solo

Was dave Mc's solo of Hurlyburly (8b) this year?

4. Alpine Climbing

?

5. Winter Climbing

There's been winter climbing?!?!? Okay, Dave Mac

6. Bouldering

Tyler Landman

7. Indoor Competition

Natalie Berry

8. Junior (under 16)

Natalie Berry

9. Services to Climbing

Norrie Muir

10. Best guidebook

?
 Chris Craggs Global Crag Moderator 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Fiend:

Ah - it may have first been available in 2006 (and in 2007 in Ulan Bator) - but it clearly states in the front 'Published 2005' so it can't be included in the 2006 achievements - how sad!

Chris



 Veronica 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

9. Mark Reeves for leading the Slate re-bolting.
 MRJ 06 Feb 2007
 willhunt 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
> We are after nominations for best achievements of UK climbers in 2006, in the following categories.


Strictly from what Ive heard.

> 1. Traditional Climbing
The Davester

> 2. Sport Climbing
Adam Ondra? Couldnt think of anyone else.

> 3. Solo
The Davester

> 4. Alpine Climbing
That Tim Emmett effort?

> 5. Winter Climbing
?

> 6. Bouldering
Tyler Landman

> 7. Indoor Competition
Nat Berry

> 8. Junior (under 16)
And again

> 9. Services to Climbing
Mark Reeves & Co for much needed retro bolting on the slate??

> 10. Best guidebook
The one I WILL eventually write.
 abarro81 06 Feb 2007
In reply to willhunt: umm.. adam ondra aint british dude
 MRJ 06 Feb 2007
In reply to willhunt:
oh yeah, and obviously the best guide is the sc wiki one for ravenscraig...

-Magnus
 Erik B 06 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

1. Traditional climbing - Dave Macleod
2. Sport Climbing - Rich Simpson
3. Solo - Julian Lines
4. Alpine Climbing - Nick Bullock
5. Winter Climbing - Ian Parnell
6. Bouldering - Dave Macleod
7. Indoor Competition - Natty Berry
8. Junior - Natty Berry
9. Services to Climbing - Andy Nisbet
10. Best guidebook - SMC Northern Highlands Central
8.
 willhunt 06 Feb 2007
In reply to abarro81: Oh yeah. Overlooked the British thing.
 Al Evans 07 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com: Dont you think you should sort the Quiz out first?
 UKB Shark 07 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
> We are after nominations for best achievements of UK climbers in 2006, in the following categories.
>
> 3. Solo

I think it is irresponsible to include this category.
Robert Wilson 07 Feb 2007
In reply to willhunt: No9 add Mike Raine for dragging the BMC Welsh Area Commitee (or Action Group as they're now called) out of the 19th century and getting things together. The old institutionalised comitee would blab on about things, dot the t's , cross their eyes, stamp the minutes and wait till the next meeting.
OP Michael Ryan 07 Feb 2007
In reply to Simon Lee:
> (In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com)
> [...]
>
> I think it is irresponsible to include this category.

I don't.

 UKB Shark 07 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

I have a picture of a younger impressionable climber inspired/duped or otherwise have their judgement clouded by media hype into taking on a limelight grabbing solo.

What responsibilities, if any, do you think the climbing media and its messages have ?
 withey 07 Feb 2007
In reply to Chris Craggs:

I think Nick Dixon's Nesscliffe Guide beats Eastern Grit
 withey 07 Feb 2007
In reply to Simon Lee:

I think pictures of people soloing hard stuff, has about as much effect on kids, as watching violent movies - feck all!!!

If I go to my local crags I can see people soloing. If I look at pictures on the web, or in magazines, I can see people soloing. If I buy climbing DVD's I can watch people soloing. I can watch peopledo rope jumps which eventually kill them. Bollocks to it... it's a dangerous sport. We all know this and accept it. We do stuff at whatever level we want. If I want to stay totally safe in life then I'd personally not even get into bed, never mind not leaving it. Bed is probably the second most common place people die, after hospital!

Read the BMC disclaimer. We all have, and that pretty much sums up life for us!
 UKB Shark 08 Feb 2007
In reply to withey:

I don't disagree with what you say because I was referring to related to clouding the judgement/motivation of a climber at the cutting edge who may for example be seeking sponsorship
OP Michael Ryan 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Simon Lee:
> (In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com)
>
> I have a picture of a younger impressionable climber inspired/duped or otherwise have their judgement clouded by media hype into taking on a limelight grabbing solo.

Or doing a trad route, or highball bouldering, or deep water soloing, or doing an alpine route......or any type of climbing.

All types of climbing are dangerous and we risk injury or death everytime we go out there (or even in there).


> What responsibilities, if any, do you think the climbing media and its messages have ?

They report on the activities of climbers in all their shades. Reportage that yes sometimes inspires and motivates climbers to go out and climb - which is dangerous.

They also have a responsibility to give safety and technical advice, and to report on accidents, how they happened and how to be as safe as you can.

Mick

 UKB Shark 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

>Or doing a trad route, or highball bouldering, or deep water soloing, or doing an alpine route......or any type of climbing.All types of climbing are dangerous and we risk injury or death everytime we go out there

Absolutely - celebrating achievement in these areas encompasses in part admiration of taking risks but other things as well ie adventure, athleticism - celebrating soloing is almost 100% about admiring risk and consequently elevating the status and kudos attached to soloing

> report on the activities of climbers in all their shades. Reportage that yes sometimes inspires and motivates climbers to go out and climb - which is dangerous.

This is not about reporting - this is about an organised gong show

OP Michael Ryan 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Simon Lee:

Most accidents happen trad climbing and abseiling......should we stop 'celebrating' these activities?

Mick
 UKB Shark 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

I wasnt aware that abseiling was a celebrated activity.

I would venture to guess that the proprtion of accidents by experienced climbers trad climbing vs soloing is skewed by the fact that meterage climbed is proportionally massively greater for trad climbing and certainly proprtionally harder given that most solo well within their grade
OP Michael Ryan 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Simon Lee:
> (In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com)


> I would venture to guess that the proprtion of accidents by experienced climbers trad climbing vs soloing is skewed by the fact that meterage climbed is proportionally massively greater for trad climbing and certainly proprtionally harder given that most solo well within their grade

Exactly. It's a no brainer, you fall soloing, you know what will happen.

Soloing has been and always will be an integral part of climbing, whether it is at an outcrop, in the mountains, above the sea or on small rocks with a pad to land on.

Are you suggesting that the media censor all reportage on soloing?

An extreme example, someone solos Northern Lights at Kilnsey...should it be reported?

Of course it should.

Mick
 UKB Shark 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

Reporting news is one thing - hyping it up at a gong show is another.

Its the difference between 'reporting news' and 'creating news' if you like.
OP Michael Ryan 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Simon Lee:
> (In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com)

> Its the difference between 'reporting news' and 'creating news' if you like.

Nothing wrong with recognising climbing achievement.

 UKB Shark 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
>
> Nothing wrong with recognising climbing achievement.


Overall - yes.

(is it your mental shutters going down that I can hear)
OP Michael Ryan 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Simon Lee:
> (In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com)
> [...]
>
>
> Overall - yes.
>
> (is it your mental shutters going down that I can hear)

Probably. Got a million things to do but always a pleasure having a dialogue with you Simon.

Mick

 220bpm 08 Feb 2007
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:

> 1. Traditional Climbing - Dave Macleod
> 2. Sport Climbing - Rich Simpson (assuming his El Muerta thing was 2006)
> 3. Solo - ??
> 4. Alpine Climbing - Ian Parnell/Andy K
> 5. Winter Climbing - Dave MacLeod
> 6. Bouldering - Tyler Landman
> 7. Indoor Competition - Nat Berry
> 8. Junior (under 16) - Nat Berry
> 9. Services to Climbing - Hotaches Productions
> 10. Best guidebook - no idea, mine are all ancient!

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