/ 100L rucksack or 100L kit bag?

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Silverdene - on 12 Apr 2007
Hi you lot,
I was considering getting a 100L rucksack for lugging all the gear around and doubling up as a useful backpack too (probably not stuffed too heavy with gear in that mode!!), but have been suggested a kit bag could be better instead.
Anyone have any experience in this quandry, or learnt lessons from past experience?

cheers
Squirrel Bill - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Silverdene: Maybe a duffle type kit bag that has sholder straps.
freelancer_85 - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Silverdene:

Get a big North Face Expedition Duffle. They're great!

Although not the thing to carry around on your back for long periods of time I guess. Actually, I know. Don't do it, it hurts.

Those big millet packs are meant to be "comfy", As if lugging 100l of kit is gonna be "comfy" anyway. Grin and bear it I say!

Um. Do you often need 100l of gear anyway? And if you do why not just get a few smaller bags instead?

Josh.
Charlie Czar - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Silverdene: If you get a 100L bag you'll just end up filling it with crap, buy a smaller bag & pack light.
Doug on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Charlie Czar: Depends how you travel - I often put everything in a large cheap holdall (guess its around a 100 L)including boots, spare clothes & a small rucksac to travel, then just put what I need into the rucksac for heading into the mountains. Works well, especially if staying in one place & having a series of day trips
Silverdene - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to everyone : Well at 6'3" my basic clothing etc (fleeces, boots and co.) take a lot of room very quickly and yet I can carry it fine. It started off a while back when I was heading off on holiday with a load of climbing/ice gear and was trying to get from Brighton to Heathrow on the train. I realised that lugging one BIG bag and hand luggage strapped on was likely to be easier than 2 or even 3 small ones. Hence while wanting to aim for one bag rather than several.
Silverdene - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Doug: Good idea Doug, would you recommend kit bag over BIG rucksask. Did you have any trouble lugging the bag about?
Chris Tan.Clone II on 12 Apr 2007 - phoenix.phy.umist.ac.uk
In reply to Silverdene:

Depends on how you are moving.

If on foot or public transport and moving about from place to place, I use a 60L rucsac. Ideally a lightweight one as a heavy rucsac is just useless dead weight!

If based in one place and making day trips, a large 90l duffle and a light 30-35l rucsac works for me. Check out Alpkit's Gourdon.
Doug on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Silverdene: The carrying straps are long enough for me to put over my shoulder but I wouldn't want to carry it far if I had a lot of heavy gear in it. The North Face type models with rucksac style straps are easier to carry but about 4 times as expensive
Chris Tan.Clone II on 12 Apr 2007 - phoenix.phy.umist.ac.uk
In reply to Doug:

I have a Gelert one from CCC or Go Outdoors at a fraction of the price. 90L for 23!
jonnie3430 - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Silverdene:

I have one of these http://www.thenorthface.com/opencms/opencms/tnf/gear.jsp?site=NA&model=AAW1 (the XL) and it is excellent. I have travelled all over the world with it and the longest I have carried it for was about 5-6 hours and it was comfy. It compresses well, the straps tie up well, if you don't fill it, it doesn't feel terrible, it is really good for living out of and locks. I've had mine for five years and the strap is starting to go on the right shoulder (I am right handed, so naturally sling it there for short distances.) I use my left shoulder now (cunning, eh!) and hope to get another five years out of it. If I was to replace it, I would look at other models and go for a similar size, robust (gets a lot of abuse and 140L is really heavy when it is all on one strap, I had 44 Kg in it once.) shoulder straps, compression straps.
I normally go for cheap stuff, but this is one area where I would get the toughest I could find, as having a broken buckle/strap/leaking bag in the middle of an airport, on top of a bus etc... would be rubbish!
Sean_J - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Chris Tan.Clone II: You get what you pay for.
Juki - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Silverdene:
Decathlons in France sell Quechua Duffel bag that looks like an exact copy of the old TNF Duffel bag. Materials are the same and most of the features look identical. Except the price :-)

There are two sizes available:
http://tinyurl.com/36tmf9
http://tinyurl.com/32qo4p
Carolyn - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Juki:

Cotswold also had Mountain Equipment ones in last year - again, much the same spec as TNF (of which I have a couple) but a lot cheaper.

Me, I'd go with the big duffle bag - ideally one with rucsac strap option. Much easier to find your kit in it than in a rucsac.
Chris Tan Ver. XLIX SP2 on 12 Apr 2007 - 130.88.74.199 whois?
In reply to Sean_J:

I would tend to agree when manufacturing was largely done in-house and QA was a lot better. Unfortunately with the trend to outsource to more competitive manufacturers, maintaining this high standard of QA is not always possible.

A good eye for quality workmanship and materials will serve you far better than just blindly paying over the odds for a branded items.
nniff - on 12 Apr 2007
In reply to Silverdene:

I go with the cheapest, largest, heavy duty cordura roll bag I can find - current one has survived about 20 return flights and cost 20 and is at least 100 litres if not more. Rucsac goes as hand baggage. If one needs to walk, rucsac goes on one's back and the roll bag gets perched on top of that. The roll bag itself weighs about 1kg at the most -

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