/ NEWS: Hard Rock Challenge: SUCCESS
Best summed up by this letter that Sam posted on the Hard Rock Challenge Blog:
Dear Hard Rock Challenge Team,
On behalf of Cornwall Search and Rescue Team, and the wider Mountain Rescue community, I would like to offer our heart...
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Congratulations to the lads, Sam and all the people involved in the HRC. It's a fantastic achievement, especially given this summer's weather!
Big up for the team.
I still think Tufa was the most prolific contributor to this though.
That was badass. 'Nuff said.
Well done to all, even more impressive considering the conditions they faced.
As Sam said to me earlier it was a holiday they planned that got turned into a challenge in a fixed time they decided to raise as much as possible for mountain rescue.
When they have finished, they will have driven around 6000 miles at their own cost, paid several hundred pounds in ferry fares, and climbed in some crap conditions that you would not have gone out in on hard routes.
Now get your hand in your wallet and give them the price of a pint towards MRT please, more if possible.
have a nice day
I really take my hat off to Rich and Mark (not to forget Sam the driving force in more ways than one, plus all the other helpers, film crew and photographers). To do all these routes in 5 weeks would be a hell of an achievement anyway but to do them all in 5 weeks in the sort of weather we've had recently is just flabbergasting. It was a privilege to spend a day in their company and add my comments in their copy of Hard Rock to those of all the other climbers who have met up with them along the way. As promised, there is a large cheque ready to send them for their Mountain Rescue Team charity as soon as they tell me who to make it out to and where to send it, and a warm welcome any time they choose to return to the Lakes.
Have a great party folks - you deserve it!
I've come to realise that in the "who would you most like to meet" threads - Tufa comes at the top.
In reply to others: We have had a rather amazing summer, we've climbed at a whole host of new crags, we re-discovered that climbing isn't just a fair weather activity and met a whole host of great people.
I've also had the chance to go around with a collection tin for Mountain Rescue and have had an overwhelmingly positive response whether it was at Glenmore Lodge, The Clachaig, The Old Dungeon Gill or Pete's Eats.
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion of whether our climbing road-trip was trivial, puerile or worthy of publicity and I don't really care. However, please take Sutty's plea to heart and if you haven't already sent a few pounds the way of Mountain Rescue this year, please do, even if it's only your loose change in the next collection tin you pass.
blog just updated!
All completed and now time for a class of wine and a chill out before the party this weekend.
Watch ITV South West tonight if you can.
Thanks so much to UKC for the coverage.
Thanks for the support we have had from you guys on here (ignore the sad people who frankly are just jealous).
Sorry if I lost it on the Donation thread, too tired!
I will keep updating the blog for weeks to come with more photos and more stories.
Sam and the team
> Sorry if I lost it on the Donation thread, too tired!
Don't worry, I'm still going to be an annoying git by keeping the thread near the top!
Keep up the good work, I am just going to take Tufa into Torquay, I have never been before.
Oooh Torquay, rest homes for old ladies, you should fit in well.;-P
Well done to everyone involved. It is an achievement that will be rembembered by you for ever and a day.
Awesome acheivement folks! We'll be sending you a cheque very soon.
So what's your goal for next year?
Next time I'm in the Costa Blanca I'll call in to say 'hi'.
Hope you have a fantastic party, you all deserve it...
Well done everyone.
Been quietly watching climbs vanquished.
Will av a celebratoring glass of vino for you tonight.
My donation will follow too.
Enjoy your celebrations.
Cant wait till sept when I coming over to say hi ;)
Now get some sleep!!
bump for donations
Congratulations to the team. I have to say I didn't fancy their chances in such an 'Atlantic' summer. I will take it as a salutary reminder to just get out there and on with it.
AWESOME!! Well done!!!
Fine work, team.
Flipping heck, yet another "edited" thread. Whilst I strongly disagreed with "Bored With This's" post as my reply showed, it was his or her point of view and I would totally defend their right to post it. It was not defamatory or obscene so why has it been removed, or was it done at their request because they realise that they had been a bit daft? Either way, what was in my response that meant it should be pulled?
A suggestion to the management: if you are going to interfere with freedom of speech (or freedom of typing) like this then why not point out the places that you have done so and the reasons why. ie "A posting has been removed here because it was unnecessarily rude, or..., obscene..., or at the posters request etc etc.
It was a great weekend despite the horrible weather!
I am so glad to be going back to Spain tomorrow.
For those that are not totally bored by all this, I will be updating the blog weekly for a while with more stories and photos.
Well done all.
COol project well done
Congratulations to the team - brilliant achievement, especially with the weather as probably the biggest challenge.
Fantastic effort from all involved - even without the appalling weather it would still have been a fine achievement.
I also strongly agree with Stephen's view here. Censorship on UKC is rather sad and spoils what is to an extent an excellent resource.
I also find it interesting that Steve's post fell on deaf ears to the mods, or have they chossen to reply in private?
> I also strongly agree with Stephen's view here. Censorship on UKC is rather sad and spoils what is to an extent an excellent resource.
It was censored because it was from an 'anonymous' if the person had been registered it would have stayed.
As regards censorship: we censor quite a lot of posts, usually pornographic links and commercial posts from unregestered users.
We have almost zero tolerance for negative or critical posts from anonymous users. If you are critical of something, stand by it and have a profile.
If this forum was a free for all, no-one would be heard, there would be no free speech as this place would be clogged up with rubbish
We responded to Stephen immeadiately and explained.
Very strange - I got a card in the post today containing a £20 note and the note "For the MRT who manage great things without too much hype. Bored/Censored!"
I'll forward it on to the Hard Rock Challenge's MRT fund!
True they did, however my suggestion that a censored post should be replaced with a message stating why it had been censored has not received a response.
Also I fail to see why it makes any difference if a post is made by anonymous or someone with a nom de plume such as Cidernut or Missile - most of us still wouldn't have a clue who they are.
I doubt I'm alone in finding this deleting of posts unsettling - it's the main reason why I refuse to register.
Strange old world!!!
forgot this silly me!
> True they did, however my suggestion that a censored post should be replaced with a message stating why it had been censored has not received a response.
The person who made the post receives a response; it is emailed directly to them. We don't post on the forums because in our very extensive experience this promotes more discussion and debate than the original post usually deserves.
If you had ever moderated a forum then you would know the huge difference between an anonymous poster and a named registered user (whose name may appear to be meaningless to most but has a working email attached to their profile).
You are in a small minority though. Those with experience of unmoderated forums know what horrible places they are - either over-run by worthless nonsense, or completely deserted. Most UKC users appreciate the moderation since it make for a much more pleasant environment in which to post.
Good moderation may be the reason why UKC has been the most popular climbing forum in the world for the last 8 years.
Hi Alan, I wasn't suggesting that it shouldn't be moderated, heaven forbid, simply that the moderation should be more open, ie reasons should be given for all to see. If this creates more discussion and debate could it be because the moderators have misjudged the mood of the forum? And also, a small point, but my response to the original post was removed but I was not emailed any reason for this.
In reply to Alan James - UKC:
>Those with experience of unmoderated forums know what horrible places they are - either over-run by worthless nonsense, or copletely deserted.
Planetfear, come on down, the price is right!
I'm with Steve, it'd be nice to hear your reasons. They don't have to go on the original thread, there could be some sort of moderators-only reports page, for techy stuff too, as well as to make it seem less big brother ish. I'm sure the other mods would be interested.
We haven't the time or resources to spend that long on each removed post. The majority of threads and posts that are removed are actually in response to 'report abuse' messages from the forum users. We don't always go with these but usually do since the general users are very good at self-policing.
Our main aim is to allow the forums to function freely without too much interference and keeping the moderation unobtrusive has worked very well in this respect. Having inquests into every removed thread was counter productive when we tried it in the past.
It was removed because it no longer made sense after the removal on the anonymous post it replied to.
Congratulations to you all on a fantastic achievement ... amazing enough in a normal summer, quite incredible given the weather you've had. Well done! And doubly well done for raising so much for MR.
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