In reply to Fiend:
> Please stop pissing around missing out star ratings (..., Cheddar)
This was always a stop gap measure. I suggested (on here anyway) at the time they should release the cheddar guide later, once all the new access stuff was established. Otherwise, to do so, back then, it seemed a bit farcical (to deliberately release a guide that the authors knew would promptly become out of date, as I then saw it). I was then Wreally surprised to see Mourning Glory was demoted from the starred longest route up cheddar gorge to something insignificant cursed with the vegetation symbol. It's not going to get any better now nooone wants to do it with that symbol is it?
So really while they could have got in touch with someone like me (or even a relative expert like Mike Kann who in the same period since did the route way more times (twice at least anyway) than my one ascent on a bad day). Given (as I think) that the authors got soft because they (and noone else, weren't doing these VSs anymore, as latterly, post 30kN bolts I myself wasn't) what the f*ck did we expect them to do, preserve the existing star ratings as honest?
I'm glad to observe that some people still regard it as the obvious challenge to climb from the bottom to top of cheddar (sans spit bien sur) and will do so anyhow, but what the ufkc are these people complaining about lack of starred VSs complaining about. The current descrpitions are excellent, and IMHO occasionally piss funny.