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 The Lemming 27 Jan 2008
Anybody got any recomendations for good websites that show how to use a compass?

My nextdoor neighbor wants to learn how to use one so I'm going to give him a little practical experience this morning but if I can give him a couple of web sites to look at this will help him to remember.

Cheers
johnj 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming: just do it in stages, the most important bit at the start is showing them how to orinatate the map to the ground, micro navigation wouldn't be need in the first cast as most folk will follow the footpaths
OP The Lemming 27 Jan 2008
In reply to johnj:

Do you have any good suggestions for sites please?
johnj 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming: Sorry, i have no idea other than the recommendation to use google, i was taught how to navigate by the military
 sutty 27 Jan 2008
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 creakyknees 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming: Check the Silva site, they used to have two short video clips that explained using a compass very well.
OP The Lemming 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming:

Youtube comes to the rescue

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aWSqhD02G_M

I'm after stuff like this please or if anybody has found any good sites that they have used to teach how to read a map and compass then please let me know.

Cheers
 sutty 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming:

http://uk.geocities.com/scouts_11shaw/index1.htm

Few games on here to get you into using the compass.
OP The Lemming 27 Jan 2008
In reply to sutty:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
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> http://uk.geocities.com/scouts_11shaw/index1.htm
>
> Few games on here to get you into using the compass.


Cheers
 eirenutter 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming: how much experience do they have? I was on a orienntearing (sp) course L1 with stuart igor the other week we didnt touch the compass, all about body map and having to keep them interested
 idiotproof 27 Jan 2008
In reply to eirenutter:

hmm may go through all this on wednesday. My map reading skills are horrendous. Really limits my exploring capability
 Bruce Hooker 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming:

Is it really that hard to use a compass?
OP The Lemming 27 Jan 2008
In reply to Bruce Hooker:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
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> Is it really that hard to use a compass?

Were you able to tie safely into a harness from the very first moment that you were given a harness and an endo of the rope?

I doubt it. However once you were shown how to do this safely I can imagine that it became second nature. The same goes for a compass. Once you are shown how to use it you realise how easy it is to use, wouldn't you agree?



Only if you have never been shown.

dave jackson 27 Jan 2008
 Bruce Hooker 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming:

Harnesses didn't exist when I was first given an end of rope! I just watched how the others did it - I'd learnt to tie a bowline in the scouts. First saw a compass on a boat, and noticed that there was a pointer that moved and showed North... not too hard really.

I learnt about lining up a map and magnetic deviation at school - I presume schools still exist? In fact I rarely even bother about deviation and only ever take fixes on boats, and that not for years.

Can't you just show your mate how to do it too? Not being facetious, just can't see the problem.
OP The Lemming 27 Jan 2008
In reply to Bruce Hooker:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
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> Harnesses didn't exist when I was first given an end of rope! I just watched how the others did it - I'd learnt to tie a bowline in the scouts. First saw a compass on a boat, and noticed that there was a pointer that moved and showed North... not too hard really.
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> I learnt about lining up a map and magnetic deviation at school
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> Can't you just show your mate how to do it too? Not being facetious, just can't see the problem.

So, you were shown how to do all these things?

Wern't you able to do these things straight away because they were easy to do?

The chap I am teaching/showing is aged 61 and has never picked up a compass or OS map in all that time, even though I presume that he went to school in those days before electricity.

But then he isn't as arragent to think that such things are so simple that a man of his age should be able to do them with out any guidance.



 Bruce Hooker 27 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming:

He's three years older than me and you refer to him as if he's some kind of mental cripple, so I would suggest laying off the arrogance bit.

Just take him for a walk and show him for chrissakes, it's not rocket science
OP The Lemming 27 Jan 2008
In reply to Bruce Hooker:

Your comments over a simple question and then stating that using a compass is simple speaks volumes about yourself and how you view others who have never used such implaments.

If you wish to carry on digging your hole then please do.
 Bruce Hooker 28 Jan 2008
In reply to The Lemming:

I'm just doing my best to help you up to the number one poster spot, it's a pity to confuse quantity with quality though!

Keep up the daft questions though, but try adopting the Nike slogan - Just Do It!
 GrahamD 28 Jan 2008
In reply to johnj:
> (In reply to The Lemming) just do it in stages, the most important bit at the start is showing them how to orinatate the map to the ground....

Do you think ? I never really found this important. The most important one I can think of is translating a bearing on a map to a direction on the ground. Ground to map can come later.
 simon geering 28 Jan 2008
In reply to All who posted links on here:

Thanks for all those posting links on here i found this useful reading / viewing.
johnj 28 Jan 2008
In reply to GrahamD:

Hello Graham

The way the military teach the very basics is something along the lines of; First finding where you are, then making the map point in the way you are looking. (This is why a basic gps is worth it weight in gold it gives you a eight figure grid ref, down to the accuracy which it tell you from the satellite coverage). Now you can pick out features on the map, as maps and contour lines are hard to read without the terrain in front of you. Once you have the basics, then navigating to a bearing/either cross graining using using waymarkers or a direct route direct, pacing using a counter would be some further steps to learn
 GrahamD 28 Jan 2008
In reply to johnj:

I guess it works for the majority, then. I always found turning the map around more confusing than helpful !
 SteveD 28 Jan 2008
In reply to GrahamD:
> (In reply to johnj)
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> I guess it works for the majority, then. I always found turning the map around more confusing than helpful !

I have the same problem I have to keep the map 'upright' and re-orientate in my head. If North is not up on the map I just get confused.

Steve D

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