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Adam Ondra v. Spain - total tally

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corax 20 Feb 2008
From http://www.czechclimbing.com/clanek.php?key=6608 :

Visited areas: Baume les Dames, Bruixes, Sta. Linya, Santa Ana, Siurana, Montserrat
The routes: The fact that Adam did quick climbs of very difficult routes make curious even Adam himself. He focused his January training to the endurance, but he has not expected so high performance, so he judge the local classification very embarrassedly.

The list of the climbed routes in the numbers .........
clas. 9a+ style PP 2x
clas. 9a style PP 2x
8c+ style PP 4x /from that one first ascent of the project of Toni Arbones 9a?/
8c/c+ style PP1x
8c style OS 2x
8b+ style OS 2x
about 27 routes above 8a
above 8c 12 routes
the time period 1.2.-18.2.2008

 JTatts 20 Feb 2008
In reply to corax:
I think Adam is in a difficult situation now.
You look at the amount of time he spent to do routes on his home turf but then only gave it a grade of 8c+ because he didn't want to go overboard and start people gossiping. He's now done some of the hardest routes in the world away from home and clearly found them a lot easier. I hope he has the bravery to upgrade the Czech stuff now as he has no proved himself to everyone.
What would be sad is his home climbs remain at 8c+ and never gets a repeat because it's so hard. He shouldn't worry about pissing people off but instead give it the true grade (>9b ?).
It's not easy with him being just 15 though.
 AJM 20 Feb 2008
In reply to JTatts:

Does it really work like that? Some routes will be easier for him than others, and so will take longer to work than others - if you are a power-endurance freak then long staminafests might be your cup of tea but a vertical wall might take you forever......

Its like that Cratcliffe Groove recently - took Pearson ages and he has flashed Fb8b, but yet he reckons its only 8a+ or somehting......... its measured by the easiest sequence, and the fact it might take you years to work out that sequence doesn't alter how hard it is only how difficult it is to find

AJM
 JTatts 21 Feb 2008
In reply to AJM:
The route is at Moravsky Kras where he climbs all the time and really knows the rock. It's also an endurance special which is arguably what Adam is better at than anyone else in the world at the moment and his favorite kind of climbing.
In my opinion this means it could be something truely different in terms of difficulty.
 nz Cragrat 21 Feb 2008
In reply to JTatts:

So whats David Lamas list look like?

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