In reply to Toreador: We risked it and had a great time, did OH Groove on 2nd, a poor attempt on my part to second WASC, Great Western via 5 star finish lead, partner led Western Front, then a bit of bouldering and a solo of 'The Ear' a problem that feels like a route. Quite a few people out, glad I went, Almscliff is often very good shortly after rain. cheers again to anybody who posted. Crofty.