/ hard to distinguish climbing hold colours
I find it a nightmare to see the colours of holds especially for feet, so I generally only climb bright orange routes!
> I find it a nightmare to see the colours of holds especially for feet, so I generally only climb bright orange routes!
You could always use features only for feet and alleviate that problem:-)
or maybe you've looked at the footholds b4?
you have it easy. my poor cousin who was as color-blind as they come - basically had to be told where to climb next.
and here in BC - they don't color code routes at all, you have to rely on pieces of duct tape they attach to each hold which is a lot harder to spot - especially since they get rubbed off after a while.
A good thing for colour blind climbers is the spotty holds, say orange hold with blue spots on, or the two colour swirlled holds.
Cos you're looking for the patteren on the hold not the colour.
If you have two lines on a rope, one in a solid colour and one in a spot or a swirl. Colour blind people wouldn't have these problems. Plus most big centres have yellowish lighting which doesn't help either.
It would save marking the wall with a sticker/symbol.
Chalk will rub off fairly quickly, tape gets pulled off. Marker pen sounds like a great idea untill we reset the wall and have to close it for a week to be completely stripped of holds repainted and reset with new holds/symbols. OK perhaps it won't need re-paining every time we reset but lots of "old" symbols are going to get very confusing, so I would guess a fresh coat of paint would be needed at least once a year.
I fully sympathise with the problems of distinguishing dirty/similar holds but marking the panels is simply not a viable option.
Strippy/spotty holds undoubtedly help but these generally cost more to buy than monocrome ones and not all manufacturers offer it as an option. At The Foundry we use coloured tags under some holds, even these fall out periodically and add afew minuts to the job of routesetting but they do help to distinguish between similar colours on adjacent lines.
God I've seen some awful, pointless, inane, trivial and boring posts in my time. And over a variety of forums too.
Well done for making it to No 2 in my all time dumb a$$ post list.
Well in some climbing walls they do mark holds in this way. At mile end (in london) they have laminated cards that are wedged behind the hold.
A thread discussing the pronunciation of an acronym, which was kinda self-explanatory anyway.........read at your own peril.
ps - thanks for taking my original post with a pinch of salt, I was not having the best of days!
Ditto at the Tower at Beaumont Leys. On one of the panels, there's a blue route and a green route that I really struggle to tell apart cos of the chalk. (Iain - take note!) Mind you, I'm not really bothered 'cos it gives me chance to cheat. ;-)
What was number 1 ? :-)
Tape.Most walls in Japan where I've been the last year or so use tape-distinguished either by colour or by shape(crosses/triangles/diamonds etc).Doesn't seem to fall off or wear out much.
> Tape.Most walls in Japan where I've been the last year or so use tape-distinguished either by colour or by shape(crosses/triangles/diamonds etc).Doesn't seem to fall off or wear out much.
Tape's a nightmare. You look up and see a thousand little different colored flags.
Still, good for route finding!
> Still, good for route finding!
I find it makes it more like the real thing.
that acronym thread, jesus, do those people have no life?
My, my...I notice that some people on here aren't very helpful are they? Nice to know that you can still ask a simple question and get the I'm sooo good and you're not response. I've been away for a few months and nothing's changed...
>Surly someone out there can come up with a cheep and easy to use idea that would solve this problem.
Redpoint (Brum) is a newish wall so have got a wide range of different holds. Some have a shape theme (animals or letters) and there is a great variety of two-colour combination holds (e.g. brown and white swirls or red and black marbled). It relies on people forking out for them though, which isn't all that likely if a wall has a big stock of older single colour holds.
but the main problem is when a route has say red, blue, white, then the next route has pink,black,white. or colourrs similar etc.
For the brycs we had to put gaffa tape around every hold (despite there being no colour clashes). When one bit of tape got knocked off the next group assumed that they were only allowed to use every other yellow in the route and not the un-taped one, but other than that it did seem to work ok. Just a bit of an extra hassle when setting/stripping, and not, IMO, necessary at most walls I've been to
Carry and use a wire brush! The climbing wall staff will soon get the idea:-)
< Usual laugh follows>
Found that last weekend at Ratho..few routes that had confusing coloured ones but..think they were riddled with chalk and the colour was just hidden. Find it at the Tower sometimes too, particularly if you're there early the next day after the night before. Helps me get up no end though ;o)
Often the problem is caused, or exacerbated by the use of high efficiency sodium lighting, which has too narrow a colour spectrum of light to allow different hues to be distinguished, slightly less efficient (but still muuch more efficient than halogen)multu vapour lamps do a much better job
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