In reply to spot77:
> whats the astron like waterproof wise?
> some people ive spoken to have said softshell's are rubbish against the rain ect..
Ok, and there you have your answer.
You'll pay a huge premium to get a waterproof down jacket. The Neutrino Endurance isn't waterproof and will turn to damp goo when it rains to an extent that you're worried about a softshell letting water through. If it's going to rain, get a synthetic primaloft or similar jacket. There are plenty of big warm ones for a lot less than £200, just as there are a lot of good powershield softshells for a lot less than £200 (have seen the Rab Baltoro Guide knocking around for just over £100 for example).