In reply to torbaytradclimber:
Sure you would say that
I went climbing with a group of people i know (friends of friends) and when they brought out their climbing rope that they had been using for sport climbing i was astonished that it was a half rope, according to them they had gone into Cotswold in Bournemouth asked for the cheapest climbing rope for sport climbing and was sold a half rope, really worrying that a store like that is so bad, just goes to show the bigger companies get the less training they do.